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Re:Apple M1 Ultra by arcticbull on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @03:05PM (#30606022)
They likely won't re-visit the Xserve, IMO. No reason to. They can't sell them at a premium compared to peers and its outside their area of expertise.
Re:Apple M1 Ultra by em500 on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @03:24PM (#30606340)
> They can't sell them at a premium compared to peers

Intel is believed to have pretty good margins on their server CPUs

> and its outside their area of expertise.

That's what people used to say about Apple doing CPUs in-house.

Re:Apple M1 Ultra by npunt on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @03:33PM (#30606436)
FWIW, Apple's been helping define CPU specs in-house since the 90s. They were part of an alliance with Motorola and IBM to make PowerPC, and bought a substantial part of ARM and did a joint venture to make Newton's CPU. And they've done a bunch of architecture jumps, from 6502 to 68k to PPC to Intel to A-series.

Folks who said CPUs weren't their core expertise (I assume back in 2010 or before, prior to A4) missed out on just how involved they've historically been, what it takes to get involved, the role of fabs and off the shelf IP to gradually build expertise, and what benefits were possible when building silicon and software toward common purpose.

Re:Apple M1 Ultra by jazzyjackson on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @04:16PM (#30607107)
I don't know, the performance per watt has a big effect on data-centers, both in power budget and HVAC for cooling.
Re:Apple M1 Ultra by nicoburns on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @04:47PM (#30607568)
I doubt they'll go after the web server market. But I wonder if they might go after the sort of rendering farms that animation studios like Pixar use. Those guys are willing to pay silly money for hardware, and are market Apple has a long history with.
Re:Apple M1 Ultra by eli on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @06:38PM (#30608903)
To be fair, that exact criticism has been leveled against them multiple times before and been proven wrong.