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Re:Steve Wozniak: Steve Jobs wasn’t a natural-born leader by JKCalhoun on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @11:00AM (#30601366)
As I replied in another comment, I didn't mean to come across as dismissive of Jobs — if anything I am trying to make the case that Jobs rose to the occasion when others in the same "lucky seats" did not.

But just to be pedantic with your list, NeXT's success is debatable and not likely to have happened at all if Apple had not happened first. And from what I've read, Pixar did its best when Jobs got out of the way and let them do what they wanted to do: make films, not hardware, not software as Jobs imagined.

Re:Steve Wozniak: Steve Jobs wasn’t a natural-born leader by kobalsky on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @11:11AM (#30601521)
> Pixar did its best when Jobs got out of the way

he got out of the way and became disney's biggest shareholder in the same deal...

when talking about Job's nose for success that's a big detail skip around.

the deal with NeXT left him with control over the board of directors on Apple.

I don't like him and I don't like how Apple operates in the developer's landscape, but I HAVE to acknowledge that what Jobs touched turned into gold.

Re:Steve Wozniak: Steve Jobs wasn’t a natural-born leader by KerrAvon on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @11:24AM (#30601718)
Yes, NeXT was in fact a notorious failure by 1997, which had a lot of us scratching our heads at Amelio paying $400M for it. (And that the x86 version of the OS was slow and fragile. But, yes, unlike BeOS, you could print. And that still mattered at the time.)

The lessons Steve learned at NeXT enabled the huge success of his second tenure at Apple.

Re:Steve Wozniak: Steve Jobs wasn’t a natural-born leader by tinus_hn on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @11:57AM (#30602218)
Don’t forget NextStep which in its Cocoa incarnation is a very important pillar under Apples success.