Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission
by mardifoufs on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @03:37AM
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From the NYT article:
>Ukrainian forces were engaged in clashes nearby, but not at the site where civilians were moving along the street. Outgoing mortar rounds could be heard from a Ukrainian position about 200 yards away.
>The shelling suggested either targeting of the evacuation routes from Irpin, something of which the Ukrainian authorities have accused the Russian army after a railroad track used for evacuations was hit on Saturday, or disregard for the risk of civilian casualties.
So the ukrainians were launching mortars from the area and civilians got caught in the crossfire ... it's not exactly russians blackmailing civilians. Still their fault I guess for invading in the first place but this is not exactly a war crime, the ukrainians knew they were also firing from a civilian position.
Edit: there's also evidence of Ukrainian soldiers being in the same street, because keep in mind all the videos of the aftermath don't match always the videos of the shooting either. In some of the videos in which we don't see any Ukrainian soldiers, the russians seem to be shooting warning shots in the air, while in those with confirmed casualties there seem to be Ukrainian soldiers in the same street (meaning there was probably a crossfire situation)
>Ukrainian forces were engaged in clashes nearby, but not at the site where civilians were moving along the street. Outgoing mortar rounds could be heard from a Ukrainian position about 200 yards away.
>The shelling suggested either targeting of the evacuation routes from Irpin, something of which the Ukrainian authorities have accused the Russian army after a railroad track used for evacuations was hit on Saturday, or disregard for the risk of civilian casualties.
So the ukrainians were launching mortars from the area and civilians got caught in the crossfire ... it's not exactly russians blackmailing civilians. Still their fault I guess for invading in the first place but this is not exactly a war crime, the ukrainians knew they were also firing from a civilian position.
Edit: there's also evidence of Ukrainian soldiers being in the same street, because keep in mind all the videos of the aftermath don't match always the videos of the shooting either. In some of the videos in which we don't see any Ukrainian soldiers, the russians seem to be shooting warning shots in the air, while in those with confirmed casualties there seem to be Ukrainian soldiers in the same street (meaning there was probably a crossfire situation)