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Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by lolinder on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:15PM (#30569440)
How does persecuting Russians who flee Putin's regime help end the war sooner?
Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by ericmay on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:20PM (#30569497)
To make it fair why not have them renounce citizenship and publicly disavow Putin or something? State their full name, former address, etc. Just to make sure they don’t support Putin and never have.
Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by hutzlibu on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:23PM (#30569535)
I think many would, if they can find a state who gives them papers instead. Being stateless is no fun.
Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by ericmay on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:47PM (#30569838)
Yea I can't imagine. The whole situation is just shit and it is all because of one guy.

My wild hope for this situation is that somehow Putin and his gang are ousted, and we can Marshall Plan Russia into a successful, prosperous European democracy. Even make them a partner with NATO like we tried to do before. Admittedly the Russian people would have to want that, so that's a precondition, but I'm hopeful.

Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by Etherlord87 on Saturday March 05, 2022 @02:44PM (#30571178)
> it is all because of one guy.

It's not. There's many ways in which you can get in contact with russians. And many of them actually support putin.

Yes, you can say people are indoctrinated. But maybe so is putin - that's the problem with determinism.

hitler was not one guy. putin is not one guy.

I'm against lifting sanctions when putin dies. Much more has to be done.

Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by ericmay on Saturday March 05, 2022 @02:47PM (#30571207)
Yea you’re right.
Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by utrack on Saturday March 05, 2022 @01:02PM (#30570017)
North Korea imprisons friends and family of their defectors, btw.
Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by ericmay on Saturday March 05, 2022 @02:39PM (#30571130)
Yep. And to take this further this would be like someone strongly supporting the North Korean regime and then when they faced the consequences of their actions just skipped down to South Korea and lived happily ever after while millions have suffered for the regime you actively supported. Sorry no sympathy.
Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by Mikeb85 on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:25PM (#30569570)
Putin is persecuting them. I just said we shouldn't embrace. There's a lot of middle ground.

Ask someone like Alexei Navalny or Mikhail Khodorkovsky why they stayed to fight and be jailed instead of fleeing. Fleeing doesn't help.

Russia hasn't been conquered since the most recent Russian Empire was formed. But regimes have fallen from within...

Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by gspetr on Saturday March 05, 2022 @04:48PM (#30572252)
Stayed?

Khodorkovsky hasn't stayed after he got out.

And Navalny overplayed his hand. It appears he really thought it was about him, not the movement he had created, otherwise he'd have had his wife run for office, which is what wives of those arrested in Belarus did.