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Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by hutzlibu on Saturday March 05, 2022 @11:59AM (#30569232)
"No, it just ensures that the only people left in Russia are the ones who support Putin."

It does not, as only a very tiny fraction of those who want to get out, can actually get out. And some choose to stay because of family, buisness, whatever.

But those who left will be the reminder of the status quo for everyone - especially if it was the well educated who left.

"And like I said, Ukrainians have no choice."

But this is the choice of the ukrainian government. I am against mandatory conscripting and would not accept to be force drafted myself. And I would not want to fight next to people who might flee any second.

"They can stop it."

And have you stopped the iraq war? Or closed guantanamo? Or stopped the war in yemen?

Why not? Or are you in support of them?

Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by Mikeb85 on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:03PM (#30569278)
Russia declared a cease-fire to evacuate civilians but has already broken it.

> And have you stopped the iraq war? Or closed guantanamo? Or stopped the war in yemen?

I'm not American. Ask a yank.

> But this is the choice of the ukrainian government. I am against mandatory conscripting and would not accept to be force drafted myself. And I would not want to fight next to people who might flee any second.

Ask a woman who's been raped why she wore a short skirt... You should be asking why Russia is killing civilians, not why Ukrainians are defending them.

Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by hutzlibu on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:13PM (#30569409)
So which state are you from? I know only of a very few, with their hands mostly clean.

But you get the point, that your possibilities as an individual (with maybe responsibilities for a family) are quite limited to stop the actions of a whole state?

And like I said, leaving the state is very effective protesting. No more state support anymore from that person, but one more who had enough. That gives the remaining something to think.

Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by 331c8c71 on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:36PM (#30569704)
> Russia declared a cease-fire to evacuate civilians but has already broken it.

Any support this is actually the case besides "the ukranian officials said ... "?

https://tass.com/society/1417395