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Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by akomtu on Saturday March 05, 2022 @11:59AM (#30569225)
It didn't work with North Korea, it won't work with Russia. Populace there is unarmed, disorganised and divided, while the Putin's gang is very organised and not shy of using violence against dissenters. When NATO says "we're trying to push russian joes to fix their government", they really mean "we're afraid to confront your bully, he's just too strong and cruel for us."
Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by lolinder on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:07PM (#30569330)
In case you haven't noticed, North Korea hasn't exactly invaded South Korea recently. The sanctions haven't created a revolt, but they've almost certainly eliminated the North's ability to wage an offensive war.

Doing the same to Russia should be our target. If we cannot end the totalitarian regime without starting World War III, we can still neutralize it as a threat to the rest of the world.

Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by yetihehe on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:09PM (#30569354)
> Populace there is unarmed

So, we should give them weapons?

> disorganised and divided

You think that overthrowing their government would work? Maybe with some "special military operation" perhaps?

> "we're afraid to confront your bully, he's just too strong and cruel for us."

Or maybe - we have a rule where we don't try to assasinate leaders unless strictly necessary. And before you say about Iraq and nin Laden - that was USA operation, not NATO. But I still think that would be best solution which minimises losses in people. But try to do this, even bin Laden was not found in one week, it would be much harder to find Putin in some vault. Plus, after he is killed, there will be some other former KGB agent to replace him.

Re:Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends by philovivero on Saturday March 05, 2022 @01:23PM (#30570277)
> we have a rule where we don't try to assasinate leaders unless strictly necessary

And yet, here we are. Maybe this is the rule that needs to change. How many of these wars will we see in the coming decades if we simply start assassinating the leaders of aggressive countries?

I understand there are often power vacuums and things can be worse afterward, but maybe a good, 20-year run of assassinating aggressive world leaders would lead us to a better place.

Why is it always the average Joe that has to pay his life for the leaders?