^ the above is a nice example of a strawman[1]. Obviously putting sanctions on citizens of an invading country is very far from shooting them, and yet asats decided to portray his debater as a leader who would murder other people, because perhaps it's too exhausting for him to have an actual, substantive conversation.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

The argument was not about the imposition of sanctions on the citizens but about punishing the mostly anti-government people that are currently fleeing the country.

Also my debater accepted the argument and wrapped himself in that straw.

The Soviet Union was ended from within... Thanks for proving my point.

The only reason it didn't fall sooner is because you didn't shoot enough fleeing refugees. Got it.

And the people who wanted to flee, played their part in it. It is bad for the morale, if you have to shoot your people for wanting to leave. And they did get shot - but not from the other side, too. They were welcomed once they made it. And still it worked.