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Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign... by rq1 on Saturday March 05, 2022 @04:33AM (#30565949)
You need one rocket launch with a lot of (nuclear) EMP as cluster munitions.
Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign... by jillesvangurp on Saturday March 05, 2022 @04:46AM (#30566026)
That would also take out Russia's own satellites. And satellites belonging to their potential allies. So, probably not the best move.

And guess which company is best positioned to re-launch a crazy amount of satellites in a very short time. Russia would have to allocate a lot of resources it does not currently have to keep up with SpaceX.

Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign... by throwawaylinux on Saturday March 05, 2022 @06:17AM (#30566444)
I don't think you can assume Russia's satellites are not hardened against EMP or able to reconfigure to defend against it.
Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign... by rq1 on Saturday March 05, 2022 @04:49AM (#30566042)
I’m not sure that they have a lot of material at the same orbits. And they can move their material prior to the attack anyway.
Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign... by mkl on Saturday March 05, 2022 @06:19AM (#30566458)
Same orbit or not doesn't matter, what matters is distance, and things in different low orbits (most satellites) are all pretty close to Earth and hence each other when orbits line up. They definitely can't just move satellites away, as satellites have very limited manoeuvring capabilities, and changing orbit takes a lot.

The EMP of Starfish Prime [1], the detonation of a nuclear bomb at 400km altitude (the altitude of the ISS), knocked out streetlights over 1400km away in Hawaii. That means it could have damaged satellites up to at least 1800km altitude (but this was in 1962), which is almost all of the low Earth orbit altitude range. With enough nukes you could probably wipe out Starlink's satellites, but with the way they're spread out, I think you'd wipe out most other satellites too.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime

Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign... by rq1 on Saturday March 05, 2022 @07:02AM (#30566748)
I meant the LEO orbit, though I have no idea of their military activities, they might as well have a ton of objects there.

Thank you for the counterpoint though, it was interesting :)

Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign... by rocqua on Saturday March 05, 2022 @06:35AM (#30566580)
Nuking the sky, with nuclear fallout spreading around the world, feels like more of an act of war than taking out a single satelite with a rocket.
Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign... by BenjiWiebe on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:54PM (#30569926)
I thought there was very little (negligible, even?) fallout from EMP weapons, as there isn't a lot of heavy elements to get irradiated up high in the sky.
Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign... by rocqua on Saturday March 05, 2022 @06:18PM (#30572989)
I haven't heard that before. I figured most of the fallout was actually the product of fission. Which should still be the same in the air.

But if fallout is the product of irradiated soil, then things are different. Would love to learn more.