Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign...
by modeless on Saturday March 05, 2022 @02:55AM
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I disagree. Certainly you could create a debris cloud, but would it be big and dense enough to actually take out a large percentage of the constellation in a shortish time frame? My guess is no, especially considering that the satellites have some maneuvering capability. I'd be really interested in seeing some calculations about it though. How much mass, how many fragments, how does it spread, etc.
Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign...
by mjevans on Saturday March 05, 2022 @03:01AM
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Given their low orbit, it would make the next couple of decades (?? offhand, I'm not sure how long it would take for the debris to completely de-orbit and some of the results are going to be more energetic after any attack) really suck... The resulting loss of life as a result of inability to launch new storm tracking satellites alone should warrant the death penalty for anyone involved in such an intentional attack.
Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign...
by modeless on Saturday March 05, 2022 @03:08AM
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Should be 5 years or less, that's why SpaceX put the satellites in low orbit, the atmosphere cleans it up. Also a low orbit debris cloud wouldn't prevent launching new satellites to higher orbits, the probability of collision just passing through would still be negligible, it adds up as you spend time in the polluted orbits. There are a lot of misconceptions about space debris.
Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign...
by mjevans on Saturday March 05, 2022 @04:57AM
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5 years if __intact__ and simply inoperative. In the event of a collision or attack the objects will break up, and the energy is not evenly distributed. Some pieces end up with lower energy and decay faster, others greater energy and thus higher orbits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome cascades can result and even spread to higher orbits. As an extreme emergency measure it might even be wise to de-orbit everything in attempt to mitigate the damage.
Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign...
by xoa on Saturday March 05, 2022 @06:38AM
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>others greater energy and thus higher orbits.
Wrong. You cannot execute an orbital change with a single application of delta-v. Any pieces can at most end up in a new elliptical orbit where the high point is further up and the low point is where they started, and this subject to the same atmospheric drag there. It takes a second application of energy at the top to circularize into a new orbit.
Re:SpaceX reprioritized to cyber defense and overcoming sign...
by _Microft on Saturday March 05, 2022 @03:10AM
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Operating satellites at that altitude would become dangerous, launching through it would be no problem. Debris decays more quickly the lower it is in the atmosphere (the thermosphere extends to ~600km for example).
(Edit: keep in mind that Starlink operates on dozens of different orbital planes all at the same inclination and (approx.) same altitude that all intersect twice over the course of an orbit (which takes approximately 90 minutes). Pieces from the debris cloud would be at risk of hitting another satellite at every intersection at a high relative speed. It's not a low risk of damage once but a low risk of causing damage again and again until the debris has decayed enough).
If "Russia" (Putin) would like to disable Starlink satellites, I would guess that he easily could. If he wants to destroy an American-owned constellation and most likely raise the conflict to a whole another level is a different question.