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Re:We're building computers wrong [video] by Brian_K_White on Friday March 04, 2022 @12:55PM (#30558016)
I don't know how to articulate it either.

It's some form of uncanny valley type of thing where every detail or facet or property I might point out, there are other people exhibiting the same nominal qualities without bothering me. But something here is just slightly off in some way, but so subtly you can't say what it is.

I honestly can't say he's doing anything actually wrong. I don't think even the most dumbed down ones are really guilty of being wrong. Not enough that I'd complain about it in a casual yt video.

I can see some people maybe not liking his basic style of exposition. That slightly affected dreamy pondering thing.

One thing I can observe is that another guy that just turns me right off even worse is the Smarter Every Day, and these two appear in each others videos at least a few times. Or maybe it was just one time and that one time just bugged me that much :)

I don't know what it is but I frequently see a video from either of these guys where the topic they are presenting looks interesting, but then I do not like their video on that topic.

I think it's down to the presentation just seems a bit too affected. And it's not even as bad as seeming fake or insincere. They both actually strike me as perfectly sincere.

Re:We're building computers wrong [video] by jalgos_eminator on Friday March 04, 2022 @01:22PM (#30558400)
Its interesting you mention Destin from Smarter Every Day, because he always came off as a very earnest learner in his videos. Yeah, he's still putting on a show, but it does seem like he genuinely enjoys and revels in the things that he does. It seems to me like Veritasium has a more contrarian thread of: "Oh, you thought the world worked like that? Well you were wrong, and here's a 15 minute video all about how you were wrong." There's an Onion video making fun of Vox that touches on this perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpkQEq75y18

I guess to summarize, with Destin it feels like you are learning with him and Veritasium feels like you are being lectured.

Re:We're building computers wrong [video] by boxed on Friday March 04, 2022 @01:59PM (#30558859)
Funny. Veritasium actually has some videos talking about why he has this approach :)

I saw something similar all the time as a dance teacher: explaining stuff and showing over and over made the students feel like they learned a lot. But they just didn't. It was mostly a total waste of time. I switched to showing ONCE then they had to try. Then I showed again. The speed of learning went up dramatically. The problem I had then was that the students didn't like it!

"Make people believe they're thinking and they'll love you. Make them actually think, and they will hate you."

Re:We're building computers wrong [video] by l33t2328 on Saturday March 05, 2022 @01:39AM (#30564966)
See, I’ve heard that, but I like being challenged. I like to have to “pause and ponder” as the excellent Youtuber 3Blue1Brown puts it, but Vertiassium is just annoying.
Re:We're building computers wrong [video] by boxed on Saturday March 05, 2022 @04:32PM (#30572112)
Challenged? Or feel like you're being challenged?

It'd be nice with a real scientific test! There's a lot of subjective feeling here and not anything very solid. Veritasium at least backs up his position with his own thesis research. I find that more compelling as an argument than having a position not backed up by anything at all.

Re:We're building computers wrong [video] by Brian_K_White on Friday March 04, 2022 @01:46PM (#30558707)
Hey, I also don't like chocolate all that much, and I seem to be some kind of inexplicable alien because of that. So, it's very possible "it's just me" that I don't like good things because curmudgeon. :)

I see the distinction you make there now that you point it out.

Re:We're building computers wrong [video] by phendrenad2 on Friday March 04, 2022 @05:50PM (#30561686)
To me the videos feel like a sustained form of clickbait. I keep expecting a payoff at the end of the video, but instead he sort of weaves together a grand narrative that nevertheless feel unfulfilling to my analytical mind. Take this video for instance. In the beginning he talks about analog computers and how they differ from digital computers. Then he talks about how neural networks work. Then he explains how neural networks could be better if they used analog values. But he doesn't ever get around to proving the title of the video ("we're building computers wrong"). He doesn't even convincingly show that we could build an analog neural network given current technology. His video format is just a lofty premise, a middle full of glossed-over science, and a disappointing conclusion with no hard takeaways.
Re:We're building computers wrong [video] by Brian_K_White on Friday March 04, 2022 @09:15PM (#30563408)
I did like the impossible to measure the speed of light one, even though it has Smarter Every Day.

Ok that one has something I can identify clearly: The way Justin (Smarter Every Day) seems to be just badly hamming up the whole "this is so weird and hard to visualize" as though to pander to the audience who are expected to be baffled by the idea being presented. That was Justin though not Veritassium.

I agree with what you point out about this one.

Re:We're building computers wrong [video] by Brian_K_White on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:17PM (#30569465)
Destin not Justin sorry. Derpyderpderp.