Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest

Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by labster on Friday March 04, 2022 @12:53AM (#30551175)

How would annexation of Ukraine further Russia’s strategic goals at this point? NATO expansion is getting more popular by the hour, as is joining the EU. Economic sanctions weaken Russia, and will continue for years to decades if Ukraine is annexed. Sure, the Russian army can get total victory given enough time, but winning the war doesn’t benefit Russia.

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Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by ethbr0 on Friday March 04, 2022 @01:52AM (#30551486)

Moscow from Ukraine border: ~520 km

Moscow from Latvian border: ~620 km

Not to mention full control of a Black Sea (and therefore entrance to Mediterranean) coastline with multiple ports. As well as a major agricultural products. As well as a huge transit country for Russian energy pipelines.

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Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by labster on Friday March 04, 2022 @03:47AM (#30552232)

What does slightly more access to the Mediterranean get you when no European country will buy your goods? All of those things you mentioned are worthless without buyers.

Except the farm land. But it’s not 1444 — trade is vastly more profitable than agriculture nowadays.

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Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by ethbr0 on Friday March 04, 2022 @08:25AM (#30554367)

IMHO, Putin is looking at this from a century perspective. I.e. in a hundred years, the sanctions will be gone, Europe will be trading with Russia again, and Russia will still have the land.

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Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by labster on Friday March 04, 2022 @03:07PM (#30559712)

Cool story ethbro

It’s for the gas pipelines, but 100 year perspective. Sure.

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Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by ethbr0 on Friday March 04, 2022 @03:47PM (#30560315)

And your counterargument is?

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Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by labster on Friday March 04, 2022 @04:58PM (#30561174)

Above.

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Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by ethbr0 on Friday March 04, 2022 @11:54PM (#30564397)

So you think the EU is willing to continue sanctions on Russia for decades, if Russia holds onto seized land?

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Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by yks on Friday March 04, 2022 @10:42AM (#30556277)

good luck keeping Ukraine after what is happening now past the death of Putin

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