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Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by AeroNotix on Thursday March 03, 2022 @09:12PM (#30549771)
So any time a tin pot dictator wants to do whatever they want they just claim they'll use nukes and we let it ride?
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by acdha on Thursday March 03, 2022 @09:27PM (#30549893)
Why do you think there's been so much effort to keep Iran and North Korea out of the nuclear club? Once someone has a high probability of having nuclear weapon and the capacity to deliver it, your tolerable options decline sharply. Russia is the worst-case form of that problem since they have many advanced weapons and even if their maintenance standards have been deplorable the odds are far too high that enough would reach their targets to cause death counts in the range of hundreds of millions.
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by kilroy123 on Thursday March 03, 2022 @09:28PM (#30549902)
Yes and this is why the US has been so aggressive about stopping North Korea.

And why the US and especially Israel is so against Iran having nuclear weapons, to the point where Israel would attack Iran militarily, to stop them.

Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by betwixthewires on Thursday March 03, 2022 @09:31PM (#30549926)
Yes. That's why every tin pot dictator wants nukes.
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by bestcoder69 on Thursday March 03, 2022 @09:43PM (#30550006)
Hm no that doesn’t sound good either. Alright nuclear annihilation it is! Too bad…
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by mcguire on Thursday March 03, 2022 @10:11PM (#30550205)
That's the point of sanctions and shipping weapons to Ukraine.
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by dustintrex on Thursday March 03, 2022 @09:54PM (#30550078)
Yup, as long as the tin pot dictator is attacking some country we don't really care about.
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by vkou on Thursday March 03, 2022 @10:16PM (#30550248)
Bingo. Unfortunately NATO made it very clear to everyone over the past eight years that it's not going to spill blood over Ukraine.

... But now that the opportunity to trap Putin in a quagmire has presented itself, it does seem to be ready to flood the region with weapons. Had it done so at any point in the preceding eight years, war might well have been avoided.

Which leads me to think that avoiding war was never the goal.

Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by Robin_Message on Friday March 04, 2022 @02:41AM (#30551799)
I think it's a bit of a catch-22: given one of Putin's stated aims is to demilitarise Ukraine and remove Western weapons, NATO arming Ukraine earlier would have caused Russia to invade earlier.
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by vkou on Friday March 04, 2022 @09:35AM (#30555336)
Invasions take a lot of preparation. You can't just tell your army to attack some country - they need to plan exactly how they will do it, and practice.

The turnaround time on this sort of thing does not favor the aggressor.