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Re:Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor? by gruez on Thursday March 03, 2022 @09:05AM (#30541143)
1. many (most?) people here are American, which has very pro free speech laws

2. fake news sucks, but do you really want a government agency deciding what speech is approved or not?

Re:Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor? by proctrap on Thursday March 03, 2022 @09:32AM (#30541490)
You surely do have laws against incitement of the masses, don't you ?

One example: In Germany it's forbidden by law to deny the holocaust, use nazi symbols, greetings or other media from that era.

And some state sponsored TV telling your they're saving people or helping some states while raiding their homes, killing them and using thermobaric weapons is ok ? That this won't create an uproar among all families and relatives ?

You have at least laws against defamation and this is nothing else than lying and laughing into the face of people.

What you certainly do is restrict youtube channels of joe rogan, trump and facebook ads for elections. And nobody did sue for free speech or won a case. So the general direction is pretty clear.

Re:Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor? by BeefWellington on Thursday March 03, 2022 @09:37AM (#30541568)
While I'm often one to point out the flaws in "ultimate freedom of speech" that many people parrot here, there is a tangible difference between being politically and philosophically pro-free speech and the way the laws are written.

You can simultaneously believe that free speech is important but that you shouldn't be able to just print lie after lie after lie about a person without repercussion.

Re:Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor? by proctrap on Thursday March 03, 2022 @09:55AM (#30541802)
I think that's an attitude I can support.
Re:Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor? by proctrap on Thursday March 03, 2022 @10:05AM (#30541953)
Another fact is that russia did forbid some german media (deutsche welle) to broadcast, so it's certainly also revenge..
Re:Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor? by Markoff on Thursday March 03, 2022 @04:31PM (#30547288)
which was response to Germany banning RT first
Re:Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor? by freemint on Friday March 04, 2022 @05:27AM (#30552867)
RT was never banned in Russia (well before the EU decision at least). It was never allowed to broadcast because it would have to get a German TV license. I didn't get one instead it good some from Lichtenstein (?) for broadcasting which is just not how that works.
Re:Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor? by Markoff on Friday March 04, 2022 @06:10AM (#30553166)
TLDR Germans de facto banned it, if they had no problem until now with the licensing
Re:Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor? by freemint on Friday March 04, 2022 @10:24AM (#30556057)
No minister or administrator made a decision to deny RT some license. All they did is to enforce in an indiscriminate manner German law. Other stations which broadcast without license would also be treated in the same way.
Re:Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor? by Markoff on Friday March 04, 2022 @11:41AM (#30557052)
sure and this enforcing right now during Ukrainian invasion is complete coincidence /facepalm
Re:Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor? by proctrap on Thursday March 03, 2022 @06:51PM (#30548704)
that's not true - and RT is state sponsored, DW isn't
Re:Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor? by Markoff on Friday March 04, 2022 @03:41AM (#30552187)
ROFL

Literally first sentence:

"Deutsche Welle or DW is a German public, state-owned[1] international broadcaster funded by the German federal tax budget.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Welle