Replying to the quote:

China couldn't care less whether they have your "sympathy" or not. What they do care is whether ICANN is taking a side or not. If ICANN is shown to be basically controlled by the west, then they won't want to participate in the ICANN internet. Maybe they'll set up their own, just like how there are SWIFT replacements. That will be the end of the internet as we know it (ie. global network, irrespective of alliances).

You can vouch for comments you don't think should be flagged. Copying them over to a new comment kinda defeats the purpose of the flagging system.

I personally think that the comment makes a false analogy, e.g. it does not consider the effects the punishment will have on other neighbours or if the punishment is suitable to the crime. In this analogy the "actions" taken against the criminal would be vigilante justice that affects others.

Finally, if we start removing countries that invade other countries from the internet we would end up with quite a few countries banned from the internet.

edit: s/effects/affects

How do you vouch for them? I don't necessarily agree with cutting the internet but didn't think it was a bad comment and agree with the false neutrality

The vouch button should be next to the flag button for flagged comments.

> Copying them over to a new comment kinda defeats the purpose of the flagging system.

yes, that's the point.

Russia has invaded Ukraine.

It's like having a criminal break into your house.

If my neighbours are unhappy with me taking action against that criminal - maybe they're friends with him - I'm not much inclined, in the situation, to have much sympathy.

And United States have invaded Iraq, Afganistan and Lybia. Should all American citizens and companies be cut off the internet for that?

State actors, at some point, have all been criminals waging wars to further their goals using taxpayers' money.

I hate all of them, but I wonder why wars in the middle east don't trigger sanctions and media attention and this invasion does.

This one does because of Russia’s previous exploits in the area. Most notably, Holodomir: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Ukrainians know what’s next, just like my ancestors did: genocide

But perspective is not.

Try to not throw "whataboutism" at something where perspective is key.

Perspective isnt key, it was a pure whataboutism

You are focusing on an event. I am talking in much larger scale. I hope that makes sense.

No you are saying, “what about X tho,” which is a fallacy and a bad faith debate tactic. We aren’t talking about a larger scale, only you are, we are talking about Russias invasion of Ukraine.

Remove "russians" "ukraine" from the topic.

Explain to me how to navigate subjects 20 years from now.

No, I won’t remove the literal topic of discussion from the topic being discussed. What the hell are you even playing at here?

The topic is Russia and Ukraine, there is no way to remove them from it. This is exactly what I mean about you throwing out fallacies and being dishonest.

I am 100% willing to be corrected.

What should I know from your perspective... I concede.