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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by fabian2k on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @03:29AM (#30511228)
It's simply not possible to change the infrastructure that fast. Gas is used for heating, that's not optional in winter. Europe needs to build more LNG terminals (which they decided to do) and order gas from other countries that have the ability to greatly increase their output. This all takes time, but in the long run Europe will stop being as dependen on Russian gas and oil as they are now, Putin made sure of that.
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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by zelphirkalt on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @03:43AM (#30511336)
Surely not possible everywhere, but I have turned off the heater and am wearing 3 sweater instead, as a symbolic act and also to find out how realistic it is. We have temperatures around 5 deg C here, I think. So far I am doing fine.
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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by skocznymroczny on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @03:51AM (#30511402)
Western Europeans willingly made themselves dependent on gas. It was supposed to be an intermediate step for "ecological" transition away from coal. But unlike coal, which is widely available in Europe and from other countries (the coal mines may have closed in many countries, but the coal is still there), gas is hard to obtain in Europe and need to rely on a few gas countries.

When Trump criticized German dependency on gas and was slowing the construction Nord Stream 2 he was criticized and laughed at.

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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by shrimpx on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @04:36AM (#30511842)
This is true, especially Germany and Italy, and Germany in particular. Even now they're in the process of shutting down more nuclear power, to become even more dependent on Russian gas. It's idiotic and pathetic, really. I hope Scholz has more of a brain than Merkel.
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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by modo_mario on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @04:27AM (#30511760)
>and order gas from other countries that have the ability to greatly increase their output.

Which is why the west fucked up in Syria and Russia got a great deal. Now Syria blocks gas pipeline options from Qatar at Russia's behest.

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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by iso1631 on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @04:02AM (#30511505)
They've had nearly a decade
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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by kevin_thibedeau on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @04:37AM (#30511856)
I'd bet heat pump manufacturers are ramping up for their biggest year ever.
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Re:Tell HN: If You Are in Russia by fabian2k on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @04:42AM (#30511904)
Heat pumps don't work well in older houses that were not build for them. This is not going to be quick at all.
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