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Re:I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again by TulliusCicero on Monday February 28, 2022 @06:39PM (#30506806)
Right, though IIRC Tesla at least has now stopped using radar.
Re:I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again by joenathanone on Monday February 28, 2022 @07:14PM (#30507182)
Which I personally think is a mistake.

I'm in the FSD beta and previously Tesla bounced the radar off the ground and was able to see a few car lengths ahead, vision only, not so much. The effect is when stuck in heavy traffic on surface streets FSD beta will think it should try to go around a lead car that is stopped, not knowing there is a long line of traffic ahead of the lead car. I don't see how they can overcome that issue with vision only, especially given current camera placement.

Re:I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again by ec109685 on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:24PM (#30507925)
How is camera placement worse than what we can see as a driver?
Re:I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again by bastawhiz on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:49PM (#30508185)
Humans can turn their heads. We also have stereoscopic vision that is able to gain visual clarity with minor movements. Our eyes also mechanically adjust the amount of light they receive, can focus dynamically, and are self cleaning.

Could you do this with cameras? Possibly, but it would be a lot of cameras and a lot of mechanical parts—not ideal for a car.

Re:I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again by TulliusCicero on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @12:02AM (#30509850)
It's probably not, but humans have a mental model of the world that cars don't, even ones with relatively advanced computers.

Using more and better sensors is an attempt to compensate for the shallow mental model, so you'd have cars still being 'dumber' than human drivers, but if they're all-knowing, that doesn't matter quite as much.

Re:I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again by joenathanone on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @06:43AM (#30512950)
https://mobile.twitter.com/taylorogan/status/142590890128377...

This is a decent thread that has some visuals, some others have created 3d models demonstrating the blind spots the cameras have.