Re:The Rise and Fall of Lisp at the Jet Propulsion Lab.
by gruseom on Monday September 15, 2008 @02:40PM
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Ok, here I think you need to look at history rather than the languages themselves. Once Lisp (and Smalltalk, for different reasons) became branded as failures, that reputation was fixed in 90+% of people's minds, and it remains so. This is all the more entrenched because of the bias in favor of the newest things in computing. For most people, that a 40-year old failure might be better than something new and popular just isn't possible.
Re:The Rise and Fall of Lisp at the Jet Propulsion Lab.
by silentbicycle on Monday September 15, 2008 @02:47PM
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So, you think it's a legacy of the AI winter?
Re:The Rise and Fall of Lisp at the Jet Propulsion Lab.
by gruseom on Monday September 15, 2008 @03:24PM
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Sure, among other things (like "it's too slow").
Re:The Rise and Fall of Lisp at the Jet Propulsion Lab.
by abstractbill on Monday September 15, 2008 @03:58PM
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That view is remarkably well entrenched. On the last team I worked in, before coming to JTV, we were talking about the big Java project we were working on. I said if I had my way it would have been written in Common Lisp. Many on the team thought that was hilarious. One guy's response was "yeah, maybe if we had a supercomputer!"
Re:The Rise and Fall of Lisp at the Jet Propulsion Lab.
by silentbicycle on Monday September 15, 2008 @05:28PM
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For what its worth, that's probably a pretty good sign that they don't really understand what makes languages slow. (Or that they in "cheap shot" mode.)
Re:The Rise and Fall of Lisp at the Jet Propulsion Lab.
by kxt on Tuesday September 16, 2008 @04:41AM
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Weird, as I was browsing the language shootout, I got the impression that SBCL produces damn fast code, in most cases comparable to the code emited by GCC or Java 6.
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/debian/benchmark.php?test=...
Re:The Rise and Fall of Lisp at the Jet Propulsion Lab.
by gruseom on Tuesday September 16, 2008 @11:12AM
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Yeah, that's the point. It's damn fast now. The "too slow" meme is from decades ago.
Good observation about Lisp vs. Smalltalk, by the way. (I also wonder why Smalltalk isn't more popular...)