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Re:Accounts to Support Ukrainian Army Directly via Bank of U... by skissane on Sunday February 27, 2022 @05:24AM (#30486963)
Ukraine as a whole is not falling. Russia might succeed in taking Kyiv, but it seems far less likely they’ll ever succeed in taking Lviv, which is where the Ukrainian war effort is effectively being directed from. President Zelensky remains in Kyiv for morale reasons, but Lviv has become the de facto Ukrainian capital. And Lviv is only 70 km from the Polish border, and so has easy supply lines to NATO territory, plus Russia will be very wary of bringing the fighting too close to the border with NATO given the risk that any fighting there might spill over the border and lead to NATO becoming directly involved in the war.
Re:Accounts to Support Ukrainian Army Directly via Bank of U... by usr1106 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @05:52AM (#30487115)
Don't count on NATO. Putin has said if any other country interfers there will be consequences never seen be before. Remember, he has nuclear weapons to destroy the planet many times.
Re:Accounts to Support Ukrainian Army Directly via Bank of U... by philliphaydon on Sunday February 27, 2022 @06:04AM (#30487173)
NATO is already helping with supplies and such. They just can’t get involved directly with their own soldiers and such.
Re:Accounts to Support Ukrainian Army Directly via Bank of U... by usr1106 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @06:18AM (#30487250)
Supplies won't hinder Russia to invade Lviv.

Morale and coordinated action of the Ukrainian army are needed for that. Remember that the Ukrainian army is rather young. They started mobilization this week. Russia has years of fighting experience, not alone from Syria. I certainly sympathize with Ukraine, but I am not convinced that they can stop the massively stronger aggressor.

Edit: Russian troops are not very efficient and morale might be questionable in some parts. But Putin does not care how many of them die. He has hundreds of thousands more.

Re:Accounts to Support Ukrainian Army Directly via Bank of U... by philliphaydon on Sunday February 27, 2022 @06:26AM (#30487304)
Russia said they would take the capital in 3 hours. It’s now day 4. People need to stop underestimating the people of Ukraine.
Re:Accounts to Support Ukrainian Army Directly via Bank of U... by usr1106 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @06:53AM (#30487442)
It's not underestimating the people of Ukraine. Putin can have his soldiers killed for months and years. And he seems crazy enough to do it.

The Ukraine does not have enough soldiers and not enough infrastructure to last that long.

Re:Accounts to Support Ukrainian Army Directly via Bank of U... by philliphaydon on Sunday February 27, 2022 @07:06AM (#30487569)
The Russian armed forces in belgorod? Refuse to go into the Ukraine. Although Russians are told there’s 0 deaths to Russian forces and such, information is leaking into Russia. There’s mass protesting happening there. I don’t believe the war will last long enough for Putin to be able to keep throwing lives at it.

That coupled with Germany, the US, Czech Republic, and NATO supplying supplies, weapons, etc into Ukraine. The longer it goes on the more likely it seems Ukraine will survive.

Unless Putin goes fully insane and wants to nuke Ukraine or something. Let’s hope Putin tops himself in a bunker before then.

Re:Accounts to Support Ukrainian Army Directly via Bank of U... by usr1106 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @07:47AM (#30487902)
> There’s mass protesting happening there.

Like a couple of thousands out of 145 millions?

The vast majority of the population has only access to state controlled propaganda. Even if they have learned for generations that their leaders and their media can generally not be believed, the vast majority believes that NATO is threatening Russia and they have to defend themselves.

Re:Accounts to Support Ukrainian Army Directly via Bank of U... by philliphaydon on Sunday February 27, 2022 @07:58AM (#30487967)
Why are you so desperate to downplay what's happening as if it's nothing and has no affect?
Re:Accounts to Support Ukrainian Army Directly via Bank of U... by usr1106 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @12:42PM (#30490581)
Remember that many NATO countries have been paying more to Russia than to Ukraine for years and still want to continue to pay.

One could say, well the former is profit from energy business and the and the latter is aid, you can't compare those. Doesn't matter. Putin can go to war only because Russia has made profits from exporting energy. And still energy exports are excluded from sanctions.

I would be glad if what is happening were enough to stop Putin. But I am far from convinced that it is enough.

Re:Accounts to Support Ukrainian Army Directly via Bank of U... by skissane on Sunday February 27, 2022 @07:07AM (#30487581)
> Putin can have his soldiers killed for months and years. And he seems crazy enough to do it.

Can he really? If he upsets too many important and powerful people in Russia, Putin risks being removed in a coup, or assassinated by his own military or intelligence services. If this war drags on for too long, if too many Russians die, if damage to the Russian economy becomes severe, that outcome starts to become a real risk for him.

Re:Accounts to Support Ukrainian Army Directly via Bank of U... by scotty79 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @07:06AM (#30487576)
Every dictator rules only because the support of his clique. If Ukraine holds long enough to firmly convince oligarchs that Putin will destroy their businesses before he captures Ukraine then he'll be influenced to back off or assasinated.
Re:Accounts to Support Ukrainian Army Directly via Bank of U... by skissane on Sunday February 27, 2022 @07:22AM (#30487701)
> Putin has said if any other country interfers there will be consequences never seen be before. Remember, he has nuclear weapons to destroy the planet many times.

NATO can make nuclear threats too. They are too classy to make them publicly like Putin does, but who can say they aren’t making nuclear threats and declaring red lines of their own behind closed doors?

Also, while Putin can make these threats, is he sufficiently suicidal to actually act on them? If he did, the likely end result would be both Russia and NATO reduced to smouldering wastelands. Even if he was suicidally insane enough to give the order, the Russian military might refuse to carry it out, they might turn on him instead.