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Re:Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, Feb 26, 2022 by rootusrootus on Saturday February 26, 2022 @09:54PM (#30484900)
Aren't there NATO countries right next to Ukraine that are just as close to Moscow already? Having Ukraine join NATO would be a bitter pill to swallow, perhaps, but it wouldn't bring NATO any closer than it is today.

And madman though Putin may seem to be, he knows NATO isn't an offensive organization.

Re:Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, Feb 26, 2022 by Thorrez on Sunday February 27, 2022 @01:05AM (#30485822)
363 miles from Latvia to Moscow, 280 miles from Ukraine to Moscow. I'm not sure if I would call Latvia "right next to Ukraine", since it doesn't border Ukraine.
Re:Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, Feb 26, 2022 by rootusrootus on Sunday February 27, 2022 @01:02PM (#30490754)
Maybe in Europe that feels like a meaningful difference, but to me, 80 miles is nothing. Belarus is the odd one out. Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, all NATO members. Having Ukraine becoming a NATO member would not present a meaningful strategic change, it's 100% just a personal thing.
Re:Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, Feb 26, 2022 by AnimalMuppet on Saturday February 26, 2022 @11:53PM (#30485531)
Not as close to Moscow, no. They're closer to St. Petersburg, though.

And I'm going to judge Putin by his own words. He says he's threatened by NATO on his borders? Then he shouldn't have 70% of his military on the border of Ukraine. It leaves him wide open to an invasion from NATO members Estonia and Latvia.

Re:Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, Feb 26, 2022 by gred on Saturday February 26, 2022 @11:43PM (#30485473)
> And madman though Putin may seem to be, he knows NATO isn't an offensive organization.

I think he may legit see it that way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOkl2XgZlw0

Re:Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, Feb 26, 2022 by VictorPath on Saturday February 26, 2022 @10:32PM (#30485131)
> And madman though Putin may seem to be, he knows NATO isn't an offensive organization

Sure, like the defensive bombing of Libya by NATO.