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Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev... by toyg on Saturday February 26, 2022 @07:42PM (#30483967)
> There is never an excuse to come short of doing everything possible to prevent it.

That's your point of view. In practice, a proxy war can be beneficial for a nation-state. Obviously it won't benefit the proxy-state's own citizenry, but hey, they are not your voters! Look at the actual effects: the world is now economically bombing Russia, Biden was weak and now gets to look tough, and if you try to take a nuanced stance you'll be booed from the room.

> How do you explain that?

I might be wrong but IMHO the point really isn't NATO membership, but dropping American objections to NordStream2. Everything else was just stuff thrown on the table as a negotiable chip.

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Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev... by nopenopenopeno on Saturday February 26, 2022 @08:00PM (#30484144)
Proxy wars are horrendous and completely inhumane. But yes, they can be “effective.” However, they are bad for all working people of both nations. Americans who drive to work will feel the pain.
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