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Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev... by sfe22 on Saturday February 26, 2022 @07:00PM (#30483513)
And nato was created to control and prevent the influence/expansion of USSR. Russia is not that threat anymore, so no major reason for nato to exist at all, let alone expand in Ukraine.
Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev... by stjohnswarts on Saturday February 26, 2022 @07:28PM (#30483845)
LOL NATO has every reason to exist as proven by what just happened. They can at least act as a united front and send unlimited arms and supplies to Ukraine.
Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev... by JohnJamesRambo on Saturday February 26, 2022 @07:15PM (#30483708)
Did anything prove they needed to be in NATO more than this invasion???
Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev... by sfe22 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @04:19AM (#30486648)
Maybe this would not have happened had nato not tried to expand to ukraine
Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev... by type0 on Saturday February 26, 2022 @07:20PM (#30483764)
> Russia is not that threat anymore,

realistically China+Russia is that threat to the West today

Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev... by dragonwriter on Sunday February 27, 2022 @04:15PM (#30492590)
> And nato was created to control and prevent the influence/expansion of USSR.

It was built to provide collective regional security, in large part by binding the Western powers, who have frequently had disputes and divisions progress to war among themselves, together in an alliance wherein that would not occur. The USSR was a major immediate concern at the time NATO was formed, but regional security concerns did not evaporate when the USSR did.

Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev... by shadowgovt on Saturday February 26, 2022 @07:03PM (#30483562)
Well, Russia wasn't a threat. Putin unilaterally invading a neighboring country has just justified NATO's existence for another generation.
Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev... by rtsil on Saturday February 26, 2022 @08:20PM (#30484310)
Putin just extended NATO's lifetime by decades.

And probably reinforced the idea of a EU defense system as well. The EU can't rely on US military support indefinitely, particularly since that support may vanish at the whim of the American voters.

Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev... by rsynnott on Sunday February 27, 2022 @04:56PM (#30493026)
I'm not sure if you've noticed, but Russia just invaded Ukraine, which seems like exactly the sort of behaviour that would suggest some sort of check on Russia was required...
Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev... by baq on Sunday February 27, 2022 @04:09PM (#30492523)
dude if Baltics weren't in NATO they'd be Russia since 2010.