Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev...
by jmcgough on Saturday February 26, 2022 @07:00PM
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There will be no restarting - they are even closer to having nuclear arms than before because we abandoned the deal. It wasn't a perfect deal, but it was real progress and would have significantly slowed nuclear development (experts say ~15 years instead of 2 years).
It's hard to have any deal when repubs have pledged to abandon it (regardless of what it is) when they have control again.
Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev...
by wyldfire on Saturday February 26, 2022 @07:14PM
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A legislature-ratified treaty would hold more weight but it would never get passed, regardless of the terms.
Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev...
by toyg on Saturday February 26, 2022 @07:29PM
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The modern schizophrenia of the US political system is making things difficult for the whole world. It used to be that US foreign policy could be considered fundamentally consistent across administrations, on the big topics; now, every 4 years, it's a coin toss.
Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev...
by jamiek88 on Saturday February 26, 2022 @06:59PM
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No. This is wrong. They got their own money back as part of the agreement. Hard to believe this is posted in good faith.
Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev...
by Ar-Curunir on Saturday February 26, 2022 @06:50PM
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Honestly, having lived in the Middle East for 22 years, I’m not sure what Iran-sponsored terrorism is being talked about here. The only plausible thing is the Yemeni conflict, and that’s more about US allies Saudi and UAE bombing the shit out of a poor country (Yemen).
Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev...
by toyg on Saturday February 26, 2022 @07:32PM
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"Iran-sponsored terrorism", in the US press, is any support for enemies of Israel - even when they are nation states building conventional forces.
Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev...
by ceejayoz on Saturday February 26, 2022 @06:48PM
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That article's clearly an op-ed:
> The Trump presidency. A man who exploited the worst of America, trashed alliances, cosied up to despots yet was a symptom of a system already poisonous.
"Made a fortune" describes the lifting of sanctions as part of the deal; Iran got a variety of its frozen assets back. That we wasted that leverage (and years of multi-national diplomacy) by blowing up the deal unilaterally for no good reason is not Iran's fault.
Re:Full consensus for disconnecting Russia from SWIFT achiev...
by theteapot on Saturday February 26, 2022 @07:04PM
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An op-ed is a type of article. The relevant paragraph was describing Obama's time in office. Do I have to qualify there is plenty of bad things said about Trump [and other x-presidents] in the article too?
Reminds me of an article I read this morning (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-27/war-on-ukraine-where-...):
> [Under Obama] Iran made a fortune out of its nuclear deal — halting but not abandoning its pursuit of nuclear weapons — and used the windfall to fund terrorism in the Middle East.
I'm sure they'd love a restart under the same terms.