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Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by antupis on Friday February 25, 2022 @02:56AM (#30464715)
Ukraina president is Russian speaking Jew so this Nazi rhetoric is just stupid.
Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by watwut on Friday February 25, 2022 @03:03AM (#30464760)
Yeah. And it is not like Russia did not had its own considerable white supremacist movements - more successful then those in Ukraine.
Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by LudwigNagasena on Friday February 25, 2022 @03:23AM (#30464877)
“Nazi” is often used as a general slur against nationalists.
Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by jacquesm on Friday February 25, 2022 @03:33AM (#30464941)
No, it usually isn't. It is usually used to talk about white supremacists of a particular ideological bent.
Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by LudwigNagasena on Friday February 25, 2022 @03:52AM (#30465078)
The only time when it isn’t, it’s when it is used to mean anything vaguely bad.
Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by homonculus1 on Friday February 25, 2022 @03:37AM (#30464969)
"White supremacist" is also a slur against nationalists...
Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by jacquesm on Friday February 25, 2022 @03:49AM (#30465059)
It is possible to be a white nationalist and not be a white supremacist, but there is considerable overlap between these groups.
Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by selfhoster11 on Friday February 25, 2022 @04:33AM (#30465356)
Unless the nation happens to be majority non-white.
Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by coolso on Friday February 25, 2022 @03:51AM (#30465072)
This argument can only be made in good faith if you completely ignore the events of the past 5 years, where anyone who was outspoken but didn’t tow the CNN/neolib line on just about any of the big issues was either directly or indirectly called a fascist or a neo-Nazi. Regularly.
Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by jacquesm on Friday February 25, 2022 @03:59AM (#30465128)
It's perfectly possible to be a fascist without being a neo-Nazi.

And CNN doesn't set policy or make people say fascist things.

Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by ajuc on Friday February 25, 2022 @03:31AM (#30464929)
There is nationalist party in Ukraine and they got 1% in elections. The elections were free and every term somebody else is in the government. Surprisingly never the nationalists tho.

Also they want to join EU (as all nazis do of course).

Meanwhile actually nationalist and imperialist Putin invaded 3 different countries during his 22 years of governing Russia. And he hasn't held fair elections there for a long time.

So yeah Ukraine is nazi.

Re:Understanding the War in Ukraine by LudwigNagasena on Friday February 25, 2022 @03:53AM (#30465087)
I didn’t say that Ukraine is Nazi.