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Re:How old are democracies across the world? by watwut on Thursday February 24, 2022 @04:38PM (#30460668)
They also had non small population of men who were not slaves and not citizens. Had to be born to right parents too. And have wealth I think too.
Re:How old are democracies across the world? by marginalia_nu on Thursday February 24, 2022 @05:03PM (#30460913)
You needed to be a male citizen landowner. But part in this is because eligibility to vote was eligibility to be assigned political office. Voting wasn't just a right, it potentially came with duties as well.

It's not that illogical to exclude slaves because a slave in office gives their masters influence over an official, exclude people without land because they were susceptible to bribery, and exclude women who could get pregnant.

Re:How old are democracies across the world? by watwut on Friday February 25, 2022 @05:28AM (#30465730)
Aristocracy with no election at all is not _that_ illogical either. But, it takes some seriously twists to call it democracy.

> exclude people without land because they were susceptible to bribery

This however means, Athens dont put other democracies in shame at all.

Re:How old are democracies across the world? by marginalia_nu on Friday February 25, 2022 @07:08AM (#30466399)
Why is universal suffrage necessary for democracy?
Re:How old are democracies across the world? by groby_b on Sunday February 27, 2022 @09:17PM (#30495495)
Because otherwise you decide that segments of the population shouldn't be heard. Democracy is literally "government by the people" - anything but universal suffrage means you consider some part of the population not people.