Re:Simmone Taitt wants to eliminate maternal health inequities
by CincinnatiMan on Thursday February 24, 2022 @12:54PM
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My wife and her friends are progressive in many ways and vote as such, but they too do not like this term. I think it has to do with feeling pushed aside from an innately important, defining thing she could call her own as a woman, when she has felt left out of so many other things throughout her life as a woman. TBH I'm not 100% sure if that's the reasoning though.
Re:Simmone Taitt wants to eliminate maternal health inequities
by nineplay on Thursday February 24, 2022 @01:03PM
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Crotchety Alert
I am progressive and I'm getting weary of the degree to which we've pushed inclusive language. Can we just acknowledge, at some point, that there are some, minimal, practical distinctions between XX and XY chromosome'd people? I thought we'd be fairly safe in considering birth and breastfeeding something specific to one sex, but no - even there we have to watch our language.
Re:Simmone Taitt wants to eliminate maternal health inequities
by beaconstudios on Thursday February 24, 2022 @12:50PM
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It's meant to be inclusive to trans men, given they're still capable of becoming pregnant and giving birth.
Offense over these new terms is often just a proxy for offense at the political changes they signify. Nobody's denying that women who give birth are still mothers.
Edit: also, in my experience going through antenatal classes at the moment, they often use "women and birthing people" which seems like a good middle ground.
Re:Simmone Taitt wants to eliminate maternal health inequities
by CincinnatiMan on Thursday February 24, 2022 @03:23PM
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This is something that mildly confuses me, in that if someone is of female sex but male gender, what that means is that they typically identify/display themselves with male stereotypes. But, the male stereotype doesn’t include pregnancy, so is that uncomfortable for someone of male gender to be going through something that is considered feminine?
Re:Simmone Taitt wants to eliminate maternal health inequities
by beaconstudios on Thursday February 24, 2022 @03:36PM
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That's a good question; I have no idea. Presumably it would cause some dissonance for the reasons you stated.
Re:Simmone Taitt wants to eliminate maternal health inequities
by 908B64B197 on Thursday February 24, 2022 @01:58PM
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Latin would include a lot more people not traditionally considered Latino. French and Italian people for instance. Not that it matters.
Every mother I know finds this phrasing deeply offensive. I wish people would stop using it.
It’s like latinx, which as far as I can tell is used virtually exclusively by non-latin persons. And look at that there already is a gender neutral English word: latin!
It’s to the point that I suspect there is some kind of psychological reason for choosing these clumsy and inaccurate phrases. Another good example is “social distancing” which literally denotes the same thing as shunning, but is used to mean maintaining physical distance.