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Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by michaelmrose on Thursday February 24, 2022 @03:27AM (#30452230)
I don't think its at all reasonable to suppose that the US simply saying they would oppose Ukraine joining NATO would have in any universe enough to avert war when merely preventing the expansion of NATO can seemingly be obtained far easier with their influence on NATO members who must be unanimous to induct a new member.

That is to say they have every reason to believe that they could without invasion keep Ukraine out of NATO for the foreseeable future so the invasion isn't about that issue.

Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by CRConrad on Thursday February 24, 2022 @09:39AM (#30455221)
> I don't think its at all reasonable to suppose that the US simply saying they would oppose Ukraine joining NATO would have in any universe enough to avert war

No, of course not. What NATO should have done was to accept Ukraine as a member. Anybody think Putin would invade a country that can refer to §5?