Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by throwaway894345 on Thursday February 24, 2022 @01:06AM (#30451067)

I don’t understand “the NATO problem”. Even if Ukraine became part of NATO, all it would mean for Russia is that there will be consequences if they invade. How hard is it not to invade other countries, unprovoked?

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Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by chefkoch on Thursday February 24, 2022 @01:28AM (#30451250)

It's the same reason why the US didn't want sowjet missiles in Cuba in the 60ies.

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Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by abraae on Thursday February 24, 2022 @01:58AM (#30451494)

The US never invaded Cuba though.

Well, not officially and certainly not effectively.

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Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by woadwarrior01 on Thursday February 24, 2022 @02:20AM (#30451664)

Umm… Bay of Pigs? Which is what led to the Cuban missile crisis, along with the installation of nuclear capable ballistic missiles in Turkey.

The US would have invaded Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis, if Khrushchev hadn’t backed down.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_Doctrine

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Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by abraae on Thursday February 24, 2022 @02:22AM (#30451684)

Bay of pigs was not an official invasion and it certainly was not effective, hence my comment.

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Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by hef19898 on Thursday February 24, 2022 @02:20AM (#30451658)

Well, they tried. And botched it. And almost started an nuclear war over a sea blockade of Cuba back then.

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Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by 1024core on Thursday February 24, 2022 @02:37AM (#30451818)

But the US did put a blockade around Cuba. Any ships going to/from Cuba could be searched by the US.

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Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by catlikesshrimp on Thursday February 24, 2022 @02:05AM (#30451546)

Ukraine gave up its working russian-inherited nuclear warheads. So, no. This is not the same.

Putin is just another authoritarian ruler, a dictator. He will use any excuse he wants to invade; in this case he is using NATO membership and separatist movements.

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Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by chefkoch on Thursday February 24, 2022 @11:41AM (#30456821)

Ukraine gave up their nukes almost 30 years ago.

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Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by select-all on Thursday February 24, 2022 @02:56AM (#30451950)

In the practical sense, the "NATO problem" is that Ukraine is not going to give up on Crimea, and once it becomes a member of NATO that will lead to direct confrontation between Russia and NATO.

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Re:Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack by fxtentacle on Thursday February 24, 2022 @03:22AM (#30452183)

I thought this is about access to the biggest port in the region, which is in Ukraine.

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