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Re:Inside Pornhub by sandworm101 on Wednesday February 23, 2022 @06:38PM (#30448245)
>> A ton of legal porn is exploitative too, we don't have solutions for any of this.

Money. That is why they get paid. We can debate how much and tell stories about porn stars who are stuck in bad contracts, but the systemic answer to exploitation is the exchange of money.

Re:Inside Pornhub by berdario on Wednesday February 23, 2022 @06:47PM (#30448334)
Money is an answer to exploitation about as much

as

A slaver feeding their slaves is an answer to slavery.

Just because you get something in exchange, doesn't mean that there's no power imbalance, the exploitation doesn't exist, and the people with less power don't actually have few alternatives to survive.

If you're arguing for: "they should be paid more!" Because currently the pay is unfair and doesn't take into account potential long term damage, that's fair... But it's not a realistic solution (how do you unionize gig workers? Because at the end of the day, people on OF have more in common with the gig economy than with porn actors of yore)

Re:Inside Pornhub by sandworm101 on Wednesday February 23, 2022 @07:27PM (#30448716)
No. With money comes contracts and consent. The contract (offer and acceptance) creates evidence of intent. Then after things go horribly wrong and courts get involved, money is used to provide compenation for wrongs done. The system exists. It is an imperfect answer but it does function.
Re:Inside Pornhub by goblin89 on Thursday February 24, 2022 @01:10AM (#30451097)
Imagine you are compelled by a few seasoned guys to enter a contract when you are at the youngest age that is allowed by law (which is how they like it). You are half intimidated, half curious and you don’t have a lawyer you can ask for legal advice on this matter.

The power asymmetry, physiological and emotional factors at play, the irreversibility of the action (the guys working you know that once they have a tape, you are quite easily manipulated), their gain and your potential damage exceed those in any legal industry.

Yeah, you are paid a hundred bucks and “money makes it legal”.

Re:Inside Pornhub by esyir on Thursday February 24, 2022 @06:18AM (#30453452)
Hey, are you talking about the military?

Here's the thing though, we do set a line after which you're legally given as much rope as you want to hang yourself with. I don't see how you fix the adverse outcomes without causing even worse failure in other areas.

Re:Inside Pornhub by goblin89 on Thursday February 24, 2022 @07:41AM (#30453979)
Let’s be stark: to equate military to this is to treat military service as exploitation for someone’s financial gain and pleasure. It could be a valid position, but not necessarily the one I would consider mainstream.

Addendum: ah, and vastly different implications. Service in most countries is not associated with a stigma, is much more transparent, etc.

Re:Inside Pornhub by cik2e on Wednesday February 23, 2022 @09:44PM (#30449636)
It sounds like what you're saying would apply to like almost every job ever. What's the solution?