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Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline by belorn on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @08:58AM (#30427947)
The only reason gas is used for heating is the historical cheap price for gas. Gas line and gas infrastructure is actually a bit expensive and require additional maintenance compared to just running electrical lines between homes, and gas heaters are generally a bit more complex to install than electric heaters. The incentives to continue with gas heaters goes down when gas prices goes up, in similar way that the incentives for electric heaters will go down when the electricity prices goes up.

If we compare Sweden to Germany, almost no homes in Sweden has gas lines connected to them. Swedish homes use heated up water (central or communal heating), or just heat up the air. Sweden has a lot of nuclear and hydro so the electricity prices has historically been low, and importing gas would be expensive. There have been few incentives to spend money and government resources into the infrastructure needed for gas. Germany in contrast seems to have done the opposite, with historical low prices for gas (didn't the coal industry produce also produce gas in the past?), and fairly high prices for electricity. By now there is a pretty large sunk costs into gas infrastructures, and a switch to electric heating would be both expensive for the government and for individual home owners.

On the positive side, a massive investment towards electric heating would be a major boon for the environment. Leaks from natural gas is considered a major contributor for green house gases, and burning it also not very good.

Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline by dzhiurgis on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @05:03PM (#30434537)
Sweden has 8x less residents then Germany tho
Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline by CRConrad on Wednesday February 23, 2022 @04:37AM (#30439364)
People always come up with this population-size argument in contexts where it's totally irrelevant[1]. So what if Germany has eight times more residents than Sweden, or Sweden eight times fewer than Germany?!? Everything still works the same, only scaled up or down by a factor of eight: You have eight times more/fewer consumers to supply (with energy, staplers, food, whatever), but you also have eight times more/fewer entrepreneurs and workers to supply it.

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[1]: This moronic argument is most frequently brought up as "Single-payer health care can't work in the US as it does in [insert any country with single-payer health care], because the US population is [X] times bigger!" Yeah, but so fucking WHAT? That just means the US has X times more health care recipients, and an X times larger economy to supply health care! It's just the same thing, scaled up by a factor of X. Sheesh...

Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline by dzhiurgis on Wednesday February 23, 2022 @10:16PM (#30449804)
It's relevant, but I'm no expert by how much. Sweden has tons of hydro, Germany has none. Scaling infrastructure is hard af.
Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline by CRConrad on Thursday February 24, 2022 @07:29PM (#30462285)
How is population size relevant to the occurrence or lack of geographic / geological features?