Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
by _ph_ on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @08:41AM
(#30427787)
Yes, of course you can heat with electricity - and using heat pumps this is definitely the future. However, the amount of nuclear available would make only a small difference here. It should be much easier to just buy gas internationally and push forward with renewables.
[ Parent
| on HN ]
Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
by cinntaile on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @08:45AM
(#30427829)
You can also use the heat directly (district heating) without having to go to electricity and back. This limits the electricity output efficiency but increases the overall efficiency of the plant. It requires changes to the turbines and the buildout of a district heating system though.
Sure you could heat with nuclear directly. Actually that sounds like something that should have been done when nuclear was in fashion. But you would have to produce a lot of new infrastructure and most of all, new nuclear plants. None of the existing nuclear plants is suitable for that.
And that is sure, while keeping the remaining nuclear power plants in service a little bit longer might be a consideration (though unlikely), investing in new nuclear infrastructure for sure isn't. There, renewables are the way to go.
Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @09:02AM
(#30427992)
Germans can barely get their heads around nuclear energy. Pumping fluids that have been anywhere near a reactor into homes will be untenable.
I don't think this is the core problem, that would have been to build a nuclear reactor so close to a major city, that you could run a pipe to it.
Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
by cinntaile on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @11:19AM
(#30429719)
As you can tell from the map that's not really an issue. Nuclear power plants aren't in the middle of nowhere, they need access to an educated workforce.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-map-of-Nuclear-Power...
They aren't in the middle of nowhere, but usually quite a bit away from city centers, for safety reasons. Too far for a hot water line to be practical.
Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
by cinntaile on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @02:26PM
(#30432411)
Up to 30km is no problem for water between 90-175 degrees celcius, so you reach plenty of cities.
Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
by LargoLasskhyfv on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @05:46PM
(#30434958)
SMRs operating at atmospheric pressure, or otherwise more managable due to smaller scales may alleviate that.
Re:Germany shelves Nord Stream 2 pipeline
by LargoLasskhyfv on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @05:40PM
(#30434898)
https://waerme.hamburg/presse-media/pressemitteilungen/erneu... <- This is one such plant at the western edge of Hamburg, being remodeled for that use-case. Having recently seen workers from Statnett
climbing the masts in the rain to put pilot wires to pull new wires(80MW upgrade) on one half of the masts, while hearing the 50hz-buzz about 25 to 30 meters below. Crazy Vikings! :-)