> but in practice it's the minimum you are expected to drive.

No, it's not. Far from it. A speed limit of 70mph on a motorway is not the minimum, just because you, or other vehicles want to exceed it.

A speed limit of 20/30mph in a city center is not a minimum; it's actively dangerous to exceed it, and if you regularly exceed these you are a danger on the road.

A limit of 60mph on a national road is often granted based on road classification rather than the actual road; There are numerous A roads in Scotland that are _not_ safe to travel at 60mph for large stretches of due to poor road camber, poor visibility, narrow lanes, etc.

> I do have a bike and I always get off the road to let cars pass when there is one nearby.

This is a dangerous and unpredictable way to cycle, and can lead to cars overtaking you when it's dangerous to do so/they're not confident to do so, in the same way that an unconfident driver travelling at 40mph on a motorway is dangerous, or a car driving in a hard shoulder to allow overtaking is dangerous.

>and if you regularly exceed these you are a danger on the road.

98% of my driving is not in city centers

>A roads in Scotland that are _not_ safe to travel at 60mph for large stretches of due to poor road camber, poor visibility, narrow lanes, etc.

Slowing down for safety is different than going slow just because you feel like it.

>This is a dangerous and unpredictable way to cycle

It's not more dangerous that being a pedestrian. I'm already off the road before they even get close. I can trust that drivers can stay on the road.

Oh bless the almighty car. We cannot question it's authority and we are all the better for serving it.

What's your point here? Are you advocating that drivers have no responsibility when it comes to road safety?

For context, everyone else's point is that both drivers and cyclists are struggling to maintain a safe environment because good infrastructure is lacking. But I just can't see your angle here.

"I do have a bike and I always get off the road to let cars pass when there is one nearby."

So if you were in London you would never get to the destination?

>So if you were in London you would never get to the destination?

I don't live in London, but if I were to do what I do where I live I would just push my bike around assuming there are always cars driving near me.

> I do have a bike and I always get off the road to let cars pass when there is one nearby.

I'll take "things that never happened" for two hundred, Alex

But it does happen. The probability of me encountering even one car during a bike ride is like considerably lower that you are expecting.