Times are great for programmers now. How does it end?

Re:Times are great for programmers now. How does it end? by Nextgrid on Monday February 21, 2022 @05:31AM (#30414116)

To be fair when it comes to France, any job being in high demand generally wouldn't apply there. That country is the capital of unemployment from my experience, and I don't see it getting any better.

But yes, lacking a degree is a big part of your problem. Fortunately, it's purely specific to France and you'll get better luck elsewhere in Europe. In my case I made my escape into the UK back when it was still possible.

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Re:Times are great for programmers now. How does it end? by Majestic121 on Monday February 21, 2022 @08:39AM (#30415729)

That does not match my experience at all, devs are in a very high demand in France, and once you have some dev experience on your resume you start getting a lot of Linkedin spam.

As for unemployment rate in general, France is not amazing but it's far from being 'the capital of unemployment' (0.4% above the EU mean rate) : https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/unemployment-rate?...

Did you have anything specific in your experience that could explain why you did not succeed there ?

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Re:Times are great for programmers now. How does it end? by Nextgrid on Thursday February 24, 2022 @05:16AM (#30453043)

> Did you have anything specific in your experience that could explain why you did not succeed there ?

I didn't have much besides self-employed/freelance experience back then (which was enough to get me a job in the UK) however even low-skill, non-tech jobs were impossible to get.

Maybe it's improved since then and if so I'm glad. I might out of curiosity apply to a couple jobs with my current profile (now having ~7 years of work experience) and see what kind of offer they come back with.

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Re:Times are great for programmers now. How does it end? by jokoon on Monday February 21, 2022 @07:01AM (#30414839)

Thanks, this comment really helps. Seems like it's a lot of wrong place, wrong time.

It's true that not having degrees is like being a leper for some reason.

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Re:Times are great for programmers now. How does it end? by rdm_blackhole on Monday February 21, 2022 @07:04AM (#30414864)

Salaries in Europe are definitely subpar compared to other locations.OP should try moving to Australia. Lots of jobs and the salaries are very good even for junior/mid.

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