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Re:Be anonymous by 323 on Sunday February 20, 2022 @05:27PM (#30409858)
What you said and much more.

For example, you buy a burner phone, but the place you bought it from, even if a second hand shop, had a security camera. Maybe they also record IMEI's before selling phones.

Or you carry your burner phone together with your real phone. Or alternatively, you leave one at home when using the other. Both of these things can be linked by a sufficiently determined actor (FBI/NSA level).

Or they track you to using a public square WiFi one day. Again, cameras are everywhere.

If they got your real name, no matter how, it's game over. You will be surveilled and they will find proof to link you. This is why all those posts "if only DPR used this kind of encryption or dead-men-switch" are ridiculous. Once they knew his real name it was just a matter of time and building a case.

Re:Be anonymous by titzer on Sunday February 20, 2022 @07:23PM (#30410594)
You should just assume a "real phone" is rooted by the FBI and functions to track your movements 24/7, accurate to the meter, is capable of remotely enabling mic/camera and all sensors, including WiFi, accelerometer, GPS, etc. Because even if it isn't, the software on it already (system software, apps, everything) already does a massive amount of snooping, distilling, and uploading. The feds "enabling" targeted surveillance on your phone will not look materially different from what it already does which has been purposely obfuscated to be undetectable.

The surveillance state is already here. The dragnet is on for everyone, and if they miss anything it's because it's hidden in the noise, not that the signal isn't being sent.

We're cooked, it's over. Forget being anonymous.

Re:Be anonymous by ethbr0 on Sunday February 20, 2022 @07:42PM (#30410709)
I'd argue that real anonymity requires disconnection from digital networks in this age.

I.e. cash, rural, paper letters for last mile

The internet is by definition centralized and the government has privileged access, from a surveillance perspective. Luckily, the number of people who really need this level of anonymity (i.e. I am wanted by every world government as a top priority) is pretty low.

Re:Be anonymous by syntheweave on Sunday February 20, 2022 @10:27PM (#30411649)
Going analog is really more of an obscurity play than an anonymity one. In which case, you can go online and simply aim to be obscure, to never raise alarms, position oneself as a predatory target, or announce oneself as a threat. Explicit, true thoughts get pushed out to alt accounts, private diaries and the like. You may even allow some degree of linkage to take place, a "if you worked that hard to get here, you know exactly what you were doing" signal. I've done that for years.

I think this is the only way to feel truly at ease with the state of things, really. Keeping a whole self in public or in private is asking a bit much.

Re:Be anonymous by ethbr0 on Sunday February 20, 2022 @10:46PM (#30411758)
The way I look at it is a matter of attack surface and attack distance. Digital vastly increases both.

You have layers and layers of technology in even the simplest modern computers, and core network infrastructure subject to tapping or worse.

And much of this that can be done from anywhere on the planet.

Analog requires physical proximity, a strength and a serious inconvenience. But it also has the property of being legacy, in that you are now immune to state of the art digital methods, and susceptible to older ones that may be out of institutional memory and practice.

Re:Be anonymous by Zircom on Monday February 21, 2022 @02:24AM (#30412836)
Charles Stross has a book series about a family of people that can step between different timelines of alternate Earth's that explores this a little.

**SPOILERS** Once the US that's basically our world discovers the existence of "world walkers" when they nuke the Whitehouse, it quickly steps into an authoritarian surveillance hellstate capable of realtime surveiling the population around the country to the point where they can track people entering their timeline because they were on camera exiting a building they were never recorded entering, or were flagged buying a plane/bus ticket from a city they shouldn't have been in according to previous records, or in one case for leaving a coffee shop with a noticeably empty backpack when she'd entered the shop with it completely full, having passed the contents to a world walker she was meeting. That irregularity automatically flagged everyone entering/leaving that building for review in their system and they backtracked all of these people through their paths that day until finding the gap where he'd stepped through to their world. That all happened in a matter of minutes and then quickly homed in on him.

Anyhow,it goes into detail about the lengths they go to to avoid detection by these systems and honestly didn't strike me at as all farfetched. The technology and capacity exists and it's a concentrated effort on part of the government is all it would take to implement it.

Re:Be anonymous by sizzle on Monday February 21, 2022 @05:49AM (#30414241)
Don’t carry a phone then?
Re:Be anonymous by frodo_77 on Monday February 21, 2022 @07:08AM (#30414909)
That's why step 0 if you plan on stepping on the U.S. governments toes is: Move to a country with no extradition treaty with the U.S. and be prepared to spend the rest of your life only traveling between such countries. Make sure to also account for edge cases like countries without an extradition treaty that still enforce it (i.e. Maldives) and countries WITH an extradition treaty that do not enforce it (like Venezuela).
Re:Be anonymous by cellis on Sunday February 20, 2022 @05:40PM (#30409955)
I would say that if you're caught and ... somehow manage to delete all the evidence linking you ( you have device explosives or, idk, 2048 bit encryption ), you may be able to escape, but come on, who are we kidding: the FBI has like a 99.96% conviction rate and that's without even going to into the "parallel construction" or other conspiratorial lines of attack.
Re:Be anonymous by ethbr0 on Sunday February 20, 2022 @07:43PM (#30410716)
The FBI has "like a 99.96% conviction rate"?
Re:Be anonymous by tharne on Monday February 21, 2022 @10:09AM (#30416652)
I don't know if it's 99.96%, but the FBI is well-known for making sure everything is absolutely airtight before making an arrest. Once they make an arrest, you can be sure they have more than enough evidence to convict and then some. When people do avoid a conviction, it's usually by testifying against others in exchange for immunity or leniency.
Re:Be anonymous by chihuahua on Sunday February 20, 2022 @09:21PM (#30411266)
99.96333 (repeating of course)
Re:Be anonymous by ethbr0 on Sunday February 20, 2022 @11:03PM (#30411860)
https://www.justice.gov/usao/resources/annual-statistical-re...

I get 93.22% for defendants in US District Court in 2019. And 93.16% for 2018. (Edit: Fixed some math & dates)

Edit: Found the referring agency line item. 91.12% for FBI-referred in 2019, 91.34% in 2018.

If you're going to quote statistics, don't just pull them out of thin air. The government is required to report this stuff, you know?

Re:Be anonymous by chihuahua on Friday February 25, 2022 @06:03PM (#30473449)
It was intended to be a joke. "333 repeating of course" is a reference to Leroy Jenkins.
Re:Be anonymous by 323 on Sunday February 20, 2022 @05:56PM (#30410069)
I don't think the FBI would be that dumb to arrest you before they have solid proof.