‘Zero-click’ hacks are growing in popularity

Re:‘Zero-click’ hacks are growing in popularity by pyman on Saturday February 19, 2022 @06:31AM (#30396308)

There are no laws in Israel preventing companies like NSO from building and selling zero-day and zero-click exploits? Without proper regulations the Israeli government is creating a sophisticated and dangerous platform for these kind of illegal attacks.

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Re:‘Zero-click’ hacks are growing in popularity by kworks on Saturday February 19, 2022 @10:32AM (#30397825)

A super reductive way of explaining it is it's because a lot of state actors (including NSA) have a lot of skin in the game through active, deep investment in the cyber weapon market. State actors strongly incentivize the 'attack' side of the market while companies historically disincentivize the 'defense' side. A solid elucidation of the system (for laypeople like me) can be found in Nicole Perlroth's book "This is How They Tell Me the World Ends": https://browse.nypl.org/iii/encore/record/C__Rb22352302__STh...

Anyone interested in learning more about how NSO group operates can check out digitalviolence: https://www.digitalviolence.org/#/

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Re:‘Zero-click’ hacks are growing in popularity by rmbyrro on Saturday February 19, 2022 @06:45AM (#30396377)

The Israeli government is exploiting NSO as a global diplomacy leverage. In exchange for approving the export of NSO software, they request foreign State support for their interests abroad, ranging from UN voting to commercial deals and anything in between.

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Re:‘Zero-click’ hacks are growing in popularity by mastax on Saturday February 19, 2022 @12:07PM (#30398581)

Essentially works like arms exports, which makes a lot of sense.

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Re:‘Zero-click’ hacks are growing in popularity by tptacek on Saturday February 19, 2022 @01:12PM (#30399127)

What would outlawing NSO Group accomplish? The trade would simply move to jurisdictions with even less oversight.

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Re:‘Zero-click’ hacks are growing in popularity by jraby3 on Saturday February 19, 2022 @06:40AM (#30396350)

In the article it states that it’s illegal to sell to over 90 countries. But maybe resellers are getting it to these countries?

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Re:‘Zero-click’ hacks are growing in popularity by markdown on Saturday February 19, 2022 @06:37AM (#30396335)

Israel are arguably the worlds biggest beneficiary of the arms trade. Why would they have anything against selling weapons?

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Re:‘Zero-click’ hacks are growing in popularity by recuter on Saturday February 19, 2022 @11:33AM (#30398326)

Only in your active imagination. In reality it is roughly in 8th place with 3% marketshare.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/03/5-charts-that-reveal-...

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Re:‘Zero-click’ hacks are growing in popularity by markdown on Saturday February 19, 2022 @07:02PM (#30401789)

According to that link, it's #1 per capita. Add to this the enormous annual gifts from the US, and you'll find that I'm correct. Per capita, they're the biggest beneficiaries of the arms trade, and the worlds largest arms dealer.

I don't blame you for not seeing that though. The propaganda about Israel being in serious danger from stones and home made rockets is quite effective.

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Re:‘Zero-click’ hacks are growing in popularity by kevin_thibedeau on Saturday February 19, 2022 @05:09PM (#30400985)

That doesn't include the free weapons the US gives them with their annual stipend.

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Re:‘Zero-click’ hacks are growing in popularity by lupire on Saturday February 19, 2022 @03:39PM (#30400319)

Now try that analysis per capita.

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Re:‘Zero-click’ hacks are growing in popularity by sva_ on Saturday February 19, 2022 @06:59AM (#30396460)

I don't think NSO is building & selling exploits. They're buying and renting them out. Exploit-as-a-service.

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