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Re:Controlling the nuclear fusion plasma in a tokamak with r... by shmageggy on Thursday February 17, 2022 @07:25PM (#30380725)
Sorry, I don't see how this has any similarity to the posted project, apart from being also related to fusion?
Re:Controlling the nuclear fusion plasma in a tokamak with r... by dekhn on Thursday February 17, 2022 @07:30PM (#30380776)
I'm just an old man, pointing out that it's all been done before, and it will all be done again. The big difference is it looks like they're in the realtime controller for the plasma, rather than determining static settings for a subsequent run.
Re:Controlling the nuclear fusion plasma in a tokamak with r... by regitempus on Thursday February 17, 2022 @07:53PM (#30380941)
This is super cool, thanks for sharing. Also, you’re right, that name is dope.
Re:Controlling the nuclear fusion plasma in a tokamak with r... by systemvoltage on Thursday February 17, 2022 @10:18PM (#30381770)
Silicon valley would name it, ahem... Atomicly. Uber for atoms.
Re:Controlling the nuclear fusion plasma in a tokamak with r... by iSnow on Friday February 18, 2022 @04:49AM (#30383880)
Since the .com domain would be gone, it would most likely be Atomcly
Re:Controlling the nuclear fusion plasma in a tokamak with r... by shmageggy on Friday February 18, 2022 @12:18AM (#30382392)
Yours was a tools and infrastructure project, and this is about learned, autonomous control. They are completely different goals.

> determining static settings for a subsequent run.

AFAICT, your software didn't do that. Rather it provided infrastructure for the researchers to do that themselves more efficiently.

From your paper:

> The ultimate goal of FusionGrid is to allow scientists at geographically distributed sites to participate fully in experimental and computational activities...

Exactly what are you saying has been done before?

Re:Controlling the nuclear fusion plasma in a tokamak with r... by dekhn on Friday February 18, 2022 @10:07AM (#30386642)
Could you be a bit clearer why you're being critical? Much of what DeepMind does is rooted in prior projects, they just sprinkle a little more RL and have a great press team. Nobody would use their system for real in production, just like when they published how they could run Google datacenters 5% cheaper in real time- turns out, nobody actually deployed that because the settings it came up with don't make sense to humans.
Re:Controlling the nuclear fusion plasma in a tokamak with r... by shmageggy on Friday February 18, 2022 @11:44AM (#30387976)
I'm not trying to be critical of your project, sorry if it came off that way. I'm just trying to clarify when you say "it's all been done before", exactly what in the current work had been done in your project. Although they are both in the fusion domain, I don't see how the current work builds on anything done in your work, even in a very distant way.
Re:Controlling the nuclear fusion plasma in a tokamak with r... by fartboi on Friday February 18, 2022 @02:26AM (#30383023)
The guy was saying nothing, people have done computer work in fusion and they will use computers again!

Profound.

He was merely giving a shameless plug of whatever infra project he was involved in.

Congrats - it involves computers and fusion.

Re:Controlling the nuclear fusion plasma in a tokamak with r... by shmageggy on Friday February 18, 2022 @11:47AM (#30388029)
I have no problem with a shameless plug -- it's an interesting show of how things used to be -- but he claimed more than that

> a previous project that was sort of an ancestor to this

> it's all been done before

implying that the current work build on his work in some way, which I don't see.