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Re:Design of a rapid transit to Mars mission using laser-the... by ben_w on Thursday February 17, 2022 @10:40AM (#30374238)
Plausible, but I remember when I did my degree, one of the examples given about the importance of choosing a good site for “off site backups” was a company whose main site was one of the WTO twin towers, whose off site was the the other tower on the grounds that they couldn’t conceive of anything that would affect both without also destroying civilisation as a whole.
Re:Design of a rapid transit to Mars mission using laser-the... by gambiting on Thursday February 17, 2022 @10:47AM (#30374318)
Well sure, but that's always a question of what are you trying to defend yourself against(what kind of scenario is the backup helping with). Twin towers are probably good enough for any kind of fire/electrical failure/theft/vandalism, but not for a meteor strike, war or as we've seen - terrorism. It's not that people in your example were stupid and didn't see it - just that most likely they didn't consider those dangers as important to have a backup for(if a war breaks out or a meteor strikes New York you probably have bigger problems).

It's the same here - most of the "human extinction"-scale events really don't touch a base that's 10km under water or under ground. Nuclear war or meteor strike? nope. Earthquakes? There are places safe from that. Solar flares? Nope. Deadly virus? Quarantine everyone arriving like you would with the journey to Mars.

Terrorism remains the main risk, but it would have been the same risk on Mars too.

And most importantly - it teaches us how to run an independent colony deep underground, which is important because despite all the Sci-Fi films showing us otherwise, the base on Mars would really have to be underground because of radiation risk.

So yeah, sure, run an underground base for a few decades then you can just transplant the technology to Mars - don't start with Mars first.

Re:Design of a rapid transit to Mars mission using laser-the... by ben_w on Thursday February 17, 2022 @10:53AM (#30374393)
> don't start with Mars first

On that part we definitely both agree :)

Although, I would say that developing the tech to colonise Mars can be a useful rallying point for tech useful to Earth (if you can put a city of a million on the red planet, you can also put it in the middle of the Himalayas or Antarctica or the Sahara), in the same way that Tesla is useful as a rallying point for electric cars despite all the people I hear complaining about the build quality.