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Re:How much do construction costs matter to the price of hou... by irrational on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @07:58PM (#30368227)
My understanding is that the trees no longer exist. We cut down ancient hardwood forests that took hundreds and thousands of years to grow. All of that is gone now except in a few places like national parks and monuments. In its place are tree farms that are harvested after growing for a few years. Instead of cutting down trees that are 4 feet across with beautiful straight grain knot free lumber, we get crap heartwood with knots that bows and warps.

To get that beautiful wood again, we would have to plant the forests, let them grow for hundreds of years, then harvest the wood. Well, that's not going to happen, so we end up in the situation we are in of having to use a very poor substitute.

Re:How much do construction costs matter to the price of hou... by mauvehaus on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @09:37PM (#30368906)
This. You buy a 4"x4" post (nominal. Actually 3.5"x3.5") at your local home improvement store and it has wane on all four corners and the pith running down the middle.

Translation: it's made from the smallest possible tree you could plausibly saw a 4x4 out of. And the pith (the center of the trunk) running through the middle guarantees that the post will split along the radial plane as it dries.

If you go to a better lumber yard, you get better lumber. Except, apparently, for 2x3's. They are universally crap. Source: built a chicken coop with 2x3's and bought from a local outfit because they deliver inexpensively. Everything else was gorgeous compared to the box home improvement store. The 2x3's were pretty much the same.

Re:How much do construction costs matter to the price of hou... by JKCalhoun on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @10:04PM (#30369072)
Heard you should get the largest lumber you can get and rip it down. Like get 2 x 12's and rip down to 2 x 4's.

Makes sense that the larger cross-sectional lumber needs to come from a larger cross-sectional tree with few defects. The crap-wood they can turn into 2x4, 2x3....

Re:How much do construction costs matter to the price of hou... by mauvehaus on Thursday February 17, 2022 @08:30AM (#30372829)
The risk of doing that is that you might start with a straight 2x12 and end with three crooked 2x4's.

Wood can have a fair amount of internal stress in it, and cutting it can release it in ways that cause your boards to warp, twist, or bend.

Re:How much do construction costs matter to the price of hou... by JKCalhoun on Thursday February 17, 2022 @11:26AM (#30374874)
I did the above to create a nice workbench with few knots. It helped of course that the lumber I ripped was glued up to make the butcher-block-style top, the uprights and cross braces also doubled, tripled up.
Re:How much do construction costs matter to the price of hou... by mauvehaus on Thursday February 17, 2022 @01:43PM (#30376911)
The Anarchist's Workbench?

(Freely available to download for anybody who's curious)

https://lostartpress.com/collections/books/products/the-anar...

Re:How much do construction costs matter to the price of hou... by JKCalhoun on Thursday February 17, 2022 @07:23PM (#30380713)
Very nice. I wish I had come across that sooner.