Elastic and Amazon reach agreement on trademark infringement lawsuit

Re:Elastic and Amazon reach agreement on trademark infringem... by sokoloff on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @06:07PM (#30367102)

I can see several cases where open sourcing your core product will be very helpful to your company at one phase and harmful in another. Whether that’s a big problem in the system is a topic that people will differ on.

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Re:Elastic and Amazon reach agreement on trademark infringem... by Dylan16807 on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @06:23PM (#30367245)

I get it, you see this as complaining about how things shifted when this is a tradeoff they embraced from the start.

But there are situations where it's not that things changed, with companies that would love to be open source but it would hurt them at all phases.

If you have to be super proprietary to make any money off software, that's bad for everyone.

When a piece of code is responsible for enormous amounts of money and none of that goes to the author, that's a bad way to get more code and a bad way to support valuable authors.

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Re:Elastic and Amazon reach agreement on trademark infringem... by sokoloff on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @06:42PM (#30367446)

Does the presence of AGPL address most (almost all?) of your concern? It seems like that would offer individual users freedom to use and modify the source while precluding Amazon from monetizing it effectively.

Those same properties of AGPL mean it’s generally viewed as not as effective at attracting a community of early users, but in a case where the alternative is proprietary-only and the company “wants” to be open-source, AGPL seems a better option for them.

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Re:Elastic and Amazon reach agreement on trademark infringem... by zeckalpha on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @06:50PM (#30367538)

AGPL only requires modified software used over a network to be contributed back. If it isn’t modified, no need!

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Re:Elastic and Amazon reach agreement on trademark infringem... by pmontra on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @07:49PM (#30368131)

If it isn't modified the AGPL is basically the same as "we use XYZ and you can download its source code from xyz.com" plus the copyleft.

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Re:Elastic and Amazon reach agreement on trademark infringem... by Dylan16807 on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @08:06PM (#30368302)

I think what would solve my main concern here is a small royalty, but I also think it would be very difficult to implement in a fair way.

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