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Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by strangesongs on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @05:10PM (#30366478)
placardabuse really shows you how many of the most egregious traffic violations are done by unrepentant, repeat offenders. I think there was a story recently about an SUV who ran the curb and killed an 18-month old in Manhattan -- the driver had thousands of dollars of unpaid fines for blowing red lights, speeding, double-parking etc.

I think people should be at a much higher risk of losing their license or driving privileges permanently for this stuff, not to mention offenses like repeat DUIs.

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Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by jrockway on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @05:26PM (#30366657)
Most interesting to me are how many tickets police and politicians rack up with traffic enforcement cameras. "Do you know who I am!?" works on people, but doesn't work on robots. That's a good thing.
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Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by brokenmachine on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @06:10PM (#30367128)
In Australia, rich people have their cars registered to companies so they are not responsible for the demerit points.

If the only punishment is a fine then it's only a rule for poor people.

edit: Just googled and they may have closed that loophole, I have no idea if any of it is actually enforced though. My point about fines only affecting poor people still stands.

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Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by rurp on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @06:28PM (#30367304)
Given how prevalent and regressive fines are I really don't understand why there isn't more noise about changing them. A $350 fine could be trivial for one person and life crushing for another. Something like mandatory community service would actually cause rich assholes some pain.

Of course there are probably plenty of ways to game community service so there would need to be strict requirments, or maybe there's a totally different system that would be more fair.

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Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by jakelazaroff on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @06:38PM (#30367402)
Some countries use day fines, which are proportional to one’s income: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-fine

As to why we don’t switch to a system like that: the people with the power to change it are the ones who benefit from the inequitable status quo.

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