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Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by throwaway984393 on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @04:50PM (#30366256)
Well as long as only 13 innocent unarmed people were unloaded on by law enforcement everything is fine
Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by someguydave on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @05:07PM (#30366440)
1. unarmed does not mean they were not a threat or innocent

2. No human endeavor is perfect. I am willing to accept some tragic mistakes in exchange for the prevention of crimes and the dissuasion of criminals.

Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by kelnos on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @05:46PM (#30366884)
> I am willing to accept some tragic mistakes in exchange for the prevention of crimes and the dissuasion of criminals.

I mostly agree with this, but there needs to be an effort to hold people accountable when mistakes are made, and to change processes to help ensure that these mistakes don't happen again, or at least happen less often. Police departments across the US seem near-violently resistant to this.

Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by someguydave on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @06:47PM (#30367495)
I think that irresponsibly spreading propaganda which implies “police are more dangerous than criminals” while simultaneously demanding “accountability” is unlikely to convince the police that any “accountability process” is going to be carried out in good faith.

I also think the existing criminal courts and prosecutors hold police reasonably accountable. They could do better.

Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by throwaway984393 on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @05:24PM (#30366639)
1. True, but neither one was shown here, so you can choose any assumption you want, and mine was innocence (the law requires the same assumption until proven otherwise)

2. There is no evidence that any prevention of crime was gained in exchange for the deaths of these innocent unarmed people. If anything it created an environment where the law is respected less.

Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by someguydave on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @05:31PM (#30366720)
1. true 2. false