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Re:Ask HN: Should we own the free stuff we pay for? by mns on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @07:50AM (#30345765)
But you can't really download a car, can you? :) Joke aside, I think we are actually going in the opposite direction. Looking at the way Tesla wants/already does keep a score of your driving, maybe self driving cars in the distant future, I would predict that we are going in the wrong direction when certain people and groups will want cars to drive away from you back to their home base or your car to refuse to start or unlock if you misbehave.

Somehow I am not sure why, we as technical people, and I would even think that most of the people in these fields are also into fiction and sci-fi, we are taking only the worst things from novels and stories, instead of the good ones, VERY slowly transforming our society in an dystopian nightmare.

Re:Ask HN: Should we own the free stuff we pay for? by c-linkage on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @08:27AM (#30346086)
This is because we work for businesses that are fixated on generating revenue and profits rather than on improving the human condition.

Since this is Hacker News I'm sure there will be some who can say the two are compatible, but it will only appear that way to the wealthy and the elites -- the rest of us will gain none of the benefits and will be seen solely as "customers" or "partners" from which revenue must be extracted.

One only need look at the transformation of business from selling products to selling services, changing a sales relationship into a rental relationship. For businesses operating key or critical technical infrastructures this is equivalent to a corporate "universal basic income", such as will never occur for the common man.

Re:Ask HN: Should we own the free stuff we pay for? by Grustaf on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @09:19AM (#30346715)
> This is because we work for businesses that are fixated on generating revenue and profits rather than on improving the human condition.

Not quite. Few businesses have ever been focused on improving the human condition. The new thing is their ability to control our lives, and our acceptance of that, both in terms of laws and our quiet consent.

Re:Ask HN: Should we own the free stuff we pay for? by Grustaf on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @08:00AM (#30345841)
Yes that is true, as software keeps eating the world, software mores will eventually rule everything. If it has a microchip in it, it might ban you.

For cars I don't think this future is distant at all, ten years max.

Re:Ask HN: Should we own the free stuff we pay for? by CRConrad on Friday February 18, 2022 @10:28AM (#30386948)
> taking only the worst things from novels and stories, instead of the good ones, VERY slowly transforming our society in an dystopian nightmare.

I have only one objection here: Doesn't feel all that slow to me.

Re:Ask HN: Should we own the free stuff we pay for? by coliveira on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @09:30AM (#30346874)
I wouldn't say slowly... It seems this thing is becoming a dystopia quite quickly.