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Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by selcuka on Monday February 14, 2022 @07:31PM (#30340789)
> I'm pretty sure we did not eradicate smallpox by firing people for not getting the vaccine...

Yes we did:

> In 1901 a deadly smallpox epidemic tore through the Northeast, prompting the Boston and Cambridge boards of health to order the vaccination of all residents. But some refused to get the shot, claiming the vaccine order violated their personal liberties under the Constitution.

> One of those holdouts, a Swedish-born pastor named Henning Jacobson, took his anti-vaccine crusade all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. The nation's top justices issued a landmark 1905 ruling that legitimized the authority of states to “reasonably” infringe upon personal freedoms during a public health crisis by issuing a fine to those who refused vaccination.

Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by dham on Monday February 14, 2022 @07:47PM (#30340965)
Smallpox was actually deadly though. If Covid had the death rate of Smallpox then everyone would have gotten a vaccine. That's the end of the discussion. If your neighbor is bleeding from their eyes (Ebola) then people will take the vaccine. The reason Covid is different is because most people have to be reminded every day that it even exists, take a test every-time they sniffle to get diagnosed. So you can imagine vaccine uptick is just going to be less. It's a fact of life. The connection just isn't there.
Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by selcuka on Monday February 14, 2022 @08:25PM (#30341335)
> If Covid had the death rate of Smallpox then everyone would have gotten a vaccine.

The point is even with smallpox some people refused to get the vaccine. People are weird.

Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by Ensorceled on Monday February 14, 2022 @07:58PM (#30341090)
COVID has killed 919,336 Americans, excess deaths over previous years indicate that is under reported by almost 50%.
Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by brandonmenc on Monday February 14, 2022 @08:03PM (#30341130)
Smallpox is like - at minimum - 30x more deadly - probably up to 70x more deadly - kills fully half of infected children under age 1 - and renders blind around 1% of those infected.

It's ridiculous to even compare the two.

Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by henrikschroder on Monday February 14, 2022 @09:05PM (#30341688)
> by issuing a fine to those who refused vaccination.

...of five dollars back then, which would be ~$160 today.

The difference between a $160 fine and being fired from your job is enormous, but you just ignored that part to make your argument.

Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by selcuka on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @12:07AM (#30343013)
And you just ignored the main point, which was not the amount of the fine, but the "1905 ruling that legitimized the authority of states to “reasonably” infringe upon personal freedoms during a public health crisis". Not that I think this is a good (or a bad) thing, but it's a historical fact.
Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by henrikschroder on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @03:32AM (#30344055)
I did not ignore it, it is simply unreasonable to fire people from their jobs over this.
Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by jml7c5 on Monday February 14, 2022 @07:44PM (#30340933)
I believe you replied to the wrong comment. (Just a note for anyone who is confused.)
Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by selcuka on Monday February 14, 2022 @08:21PM (#30341289)
Yes, sorry for not mentioning it, but the reply button was not visible for some reason (possibly HN thought that it's a flamewar), hence the closest comment and the quote. :/