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Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by defaultname on Monday February 14, 2022 @07:04PM (#30340497)
"Last poll I saw (Ipsos) said 1 out of 3 Canadians support the protest"

That grossly misrepresented poll asked only if respondents sympathize with their cause. If you agree that mandates need to go. Note that when asked directly, 60-70% of Canada are over mandates, and just being asked to show sympathy already lost 50% of those people.

But this doesn't mean that those people support this protest. Indeed, in subsequent polls, over 60% of the country wants the protesters jailed.

Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by refurb on Monday February 14, 2022 @07:09PM (#30340547)
I’m not sure we disagree? 46% having sympathy shows it’s not a vocal minority in the least.

And sympathy is a kind of support. I mean, you can have support without sympathy for the cause they are protesting?

22% said they should stay, so 1 out of 5 directly support it.

Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by mint2 on Monday February 14, 2022 @11:37PM (#30342854)
Note on the definition of sympathy. One can have sympathy for where someone’s coming from but completely disagree and be opposed to an action it inspires them to take.
Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by refurb on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @12:19AM (#30343094)
From the Ipsos poll:”A sizeable minority of Canadians (37%) agree (16% strongly/21% somewhat) that while they might not say it publicly, they agree with a lot of what the truck protestors are fighting for”
Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by defaultname on Monday February 14, 2022 @07:17PM (#30340638)
You claimed that the survey showed that they "support" the protests. The question asked only if people "sympathize" with the "frustration" of the convoy. That is a very low barrier, easy yes, given that a strong majority of Canada is tired of mandates. Indeed, the question went so far as adding "may not support the protest" to specifically delimit.

Canadians are very against this protest. If they simply parked some trucks and hung some signs, whatever. Once they were blasting horns 24/7, and then when that didn't work (given that the overwhelming majority of "truckers" are not with their cause and continued working) blocking international borders, the Canadian public turned dramatically against this petulant outrage. Having a bunch of Americans cheering it on, financing it, and even trying to join in has made it a cause that most Canadians find outright treasonous now.

Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by refurb on Monday February 14, 2022 @11:00PM (#30342634)
Having sympathy is a form of support. And even the latest polls say 1 in 5 Canadians "want the protestors" to stay. That's what? A few million Canadians?
Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by MisterBastahrd on Monday February 14, 2022 @11:23PM (#30342756)
No, it is not.

Plenty of people are sympathetic if a starving man breaks into a store to steal some food. That isn't the same thing as being supportive of breaking and entering or theft.

Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by refurb on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @12:16AM (#30343072)
You nicely ignored the 1 in 5 who do support the convoy.

Like I said, millions of Canadians.

Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by MisterBastahrd on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @02:29AM (#30343738)
In democracies, we tend to ignore things when they only get 20% support, and that's if nobody is actively being harmed.

I hope that the convoys are not only completely cut off from economic support, but also that the people driving those trucks are identified and prevented from ever crossing the border into the US. Truck driving is a decent job. Be a shame if some of them were forced to earn a living doing something else from now on.

Re:Trudeau Invokes Emergencies Act by refurb on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @03:42AM (#30344127)
In democracies, we tend to ignore things when they only get 20% support, and that's if nobody is actively being harmed.

This is a terrible understanding of Canada's system and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms (including the ones that Trudeau just suspended with the Emergencies Act).

It's not hard to understand how authoritarian systems come about - it's people like you who gladly support them as long as the enemy is someone you agree is bad.

Yikes.