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Re:A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds ... by l33tbro on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:40AM (#30330095)
Then why do they frame connection in terms of a habit that yields "unlimited upside" and prevents you from missing out on opportunities?

You are absolutely right that people are different, but this person comes across a little transactional and an exemplar of the Zuckerborg meme.

Re:A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds ... by usrusr on Monday February 14, 2022 @05:28AM (#30330397)
The kind of person who needs a process like that would most likely also need a very strong push to follow through with it. Chances are cosplaying entrepreneur lingo is the nth iteration in a long line of attempts to convince themselves, new year's resolutions and the like, with all of the more dignified approaches having utterly failed.

I'm in the same boats, both of them: the author's, failing to keep in touch and being aware of it, and yours, being intuitively revulsed by the systematic approach. I even refuse taking part in that weird ritual of Facebook birthday wishes, because I consider it somewhat dishonest to congratulate when I didn't remember myself.

Re:A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds ... by pell on Monday February 14, 2022 @05:24AM (#30330367)
> and miss out on a ton of fun and opportunities.

This is the actual sentence you are referring to and it seems omitting the "ton of fun" part is a bit disingenuous as it clearly stands against this perceived technocratic and opportunistic use of people. The word "opportunity" is not used any other time in the article, by the way.

Re:A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds ... by otikik on Monday February 14, 2022 @07:04AM (#30331006)
I think you might be overblowing things. The quotes are:

> Staying in touch [...] require[s] little effort, time and resources but has an unlimited upside

In this case the "unlimited upside" is set in contraposition to the amount of effort it requires. It might not exactly true (it's not "unlimited") but it's "big".

> Unfortunately, for most people (me included) this isn’t something that happens naturally. So unless you have a solid system, chances are high that you won’t reach out to people regularly and miss out on a ton of fun and opportunities.

What puts it in context for me is that first one in the second quote: this article is addressing people with difficulties keeping in touch. If you're not that, the article is not for you, and at's ok.

Once that's clear, the other phrases read to me like motivational speech - for others and for the author themselves.

If the article was about weight lifting, it would start by talking about the health benefits it can bring.

A lot of friendships are (mutually) beneficial. Others are more neutral, and yes, some are pernicious. But you are not going to get people motivated to maintain them or make new ones if you lead with that. That'd be starting the weight lifting article by listing all the different injuries you can get.

> Zuckerborg meme.

I think you might be showing a lack of empathy here.

Re:A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds ... by dskloet on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:59AM (#30330209)
Why is it wrong to see a good friendship as very valuable?
Re:A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds ... by l33tbro on Monday February 14, 2022 @05:07AM (#30330254)
Because valuing close friends through the lens of what personal gain they may yield is more than a little sociopathic?
Re:A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds ... by dskloet on Monday February 14, 2022 @05:15AM (#30330306)
Why? Happiness and valuable shared experiences are also gains.
Re:A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds ... by l33tbro on Monday February 14, 2022 @05:37AM (#30330440)
What about my alcoholic friend I've known for 20 years that is destroying his life and lashing out at me right now because he is sick? Or my heavily depressed friend of 30 years who I sat with on the weekend? Not everything is about extracting maximum personal happiness. Friendship can also be about service.
Re:A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds ... by dskloet on Monday February 14, 2022 @06:24AM (#30330728)
If you care about these people then presumably it does make you happier in the long term to let them know that you care about them. Especially if it's not that pleasant in the moment I imagine having a system to remind you could be helpful.
Re:A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds ... by hungryforcodes on Monday February 14, 2022 @05:24AM (#30330369)
So we should become friends with people we don't value? Like random people on the street? It's a good idea, but would be exhausting.
Re:A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds ... by p_l on Monday February 14, 2022 @05:30AM (#30330407)
At no point does he talk about making everyone into a deep friend. I guess english language is just incapable of explaining it due to not enough words to express the spectrum?

Do note that he has different "frequency" categories (which don't have to map to "type of friendship" same way even in that one database!).

Some are just people he is interested in meeting, maybe keeping in light contact over time. Some more often. Some so often that he actually pushes his schedule to ensure regular time for meetings, something that can be ridiculously hard even without crippling anxiety.

Re:A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds ... by hungryforcodes on Monday February 14, 2022 @12:30PM (#30334908)
Oh actually I really agree with you and the OP. I was responding more to the parent post.

I think it's ok to just partition our lives into friends we value -- and largely ignore others. We'd be insane otherwise. So long as we remember to keep a general humanistic value for the man (or woman or trans or define-it-yourself) on the street...

As I get older I find it hard to even KEEP UP with normal friends flung far away and separated by the distance of time. Not everyone will agree with the OP, but I'm always impressed with old friends from 20 years ago that still keep contact.

Something to consider.

Re:A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds ... by p_l on Monday February 14, 2022 @03:32PM (#30337873)
Considering my own issues, this system makes me envious, specifically because of how hard it is to ensure to call and talk or message etc.

That said, the system I guess shows dual-use case of CRM technology ;)

Re:A simple system I’m using to stay in touch with hundreds ... by hungryforcodes on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @01:43PM (#30363934)
A CRM for long lost friends would be handy...