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Re:Does the human lifespan have a limit? by brnaftr361 on Saturday February 12, 2022 @02:53PM (#30315732)
Gilgamesh did it first.

On immortality, my thing is actually psychologically framing it were it to become a reality; it's entirely inconsistent with everything we have ever known. I think mortality has a purpose within the context of life. And there's literally limitless implications it would have. To me it seems like the most inhumane pursuit conceivable.

Re:Does the human lifespan have a limit? by kiba on Sunday February 13, 2022 @09:31AM (#30321941)
Gilgamesh did it first.

Gilgamesh encodes myths and lessons for human race with no technological access to 'immortality'.

I think mortality has a purpose within the context of life. And there's literally limitless implications it would have. To me it seems like the most inhumane pursuit conceivable

There is no purpose but what we make of it, and why it would be inhumane? It's inhumane to watch people you loved die.

Re:Does the human lifespan have a limit? by verve_rat on Saturday February 12, 2022 @04:38PM (#30316784)
Where as to me, not pursuing it is condemning people to countless years of not existing. Which seems far more cruel than choosing to have a limited life span.

What is the difference between not investing in life extension research and just putting a pillow over the face of a million people?

Re:Does the human lifespan have a limit? by brnaftr361 on Saturday February 12, 2022 @08:18PM (#30318147)
Because it's the default nobody is morally implicated in electing to avoid it. There is no smothering.

On the obverse side, there's a string of unavoidable consequences and complications that are unfathomable. Once such a technique becomes available though, that culpability becomes real. And on many complex levels. It's a fools errand cartooned in the purile mind, and far more responsibility than humanity will ever be capable of justly handling.

Re:Does the human lifespan have a limit? by verve_rat on Saturday February 12, 2022 @09:09PM (#30318439)
>Because it's the default nobody is morally implicated in electing to avoid it. There is no smothering.

The trolley problem would like a word.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem

Re:Does the human lifespan have a limit? by brnaftr361 on Saturday February 12, 2022 @10:06PM (#30318736)
You're effectively switching the track to "Strangulate the whole planet with humans and their downstream effects!", very cool, or y'know any other disasterous permutation. We've already got population issues if that isn't compelling enough for you.
Re:Does the human lifespan have a limit? by verve_rat on Sunday February 13, 2022 @02:01AM (#30319869)
Because an immortal human won't change their thinking re long term impacts on the planet. Sure buddy.

You want people to die. I think that is horrendous. Our world views seem to be fundamentally different, is there any point continuing this conversation?

Re:Does the human lifespan have a limit? by brnaftr361 on Sunday February 13, 2022 @06:39PM (#30326756)
You're allowed to impute whatever you may wish. My aims are the maintenance of the single rock in the known universe capable and currently sustaining life, and intelligent life at that.
Re:Does the human lifespan have a limit? by ben_w on Sunday February 13, 2022 @10:03AM (#30322115)
Environmental impact is not even on the same axis as longevity.

If everyone lived like the average American today, the maximum sustainable population is about 70 million humans (give or take a factor of about 2), even if they’re all mortal.

Conversely one can conceive a green tech and policy future which is compatible with having trillions of ageless humans living comfortably in what are currently deserts while the rest of the world is maintained as a nature reserve.