Re:Lasershark: Fast, bidirectional communication into air-ga...
by forgotmyoldacc on Friday February 11, 2022 @01:21PM
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How often are attackers hacking a air-gapped device but have line of sight? It seems fairly implausible.
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Re:Lasershark: Fast, bidirectional communication into air-ga...
by phoe-krk on Friday February 11, 2022 @01:27PM
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A telescope looking through a proper window at nighttime could be enough. Some LEDs are powerful enough to illuminate a large chunk of an otherwise dark room.
Re:Lasershark: Fast, bidirectional communication into air-ga...
by jaywalk on Friday February 11, 2022 @01:33PM
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The point is that the air-gapped system would have to be compromised first.
Re:Lasershark: Fast, bidirectional communication into air-ga...
by 0xCMP on Friday February 11, 2022 @02:07PM
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And not in a windowless room already.
How many air gapped systems are running next to a Window?
Although I guess you can use this as evidence: if it needs to be air-gapped it also needs to be in a windowless room or some kind of sealed container.
Re:Lasershark: Fast, bidirectional communication into air-ga...
by bentcorner on Friday February 11, 2022 @03:02PM
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How long before we have people shooting cosmic rays at air-gapped systems in windowless rooms and measuring bit flips?
Re:Lasershark: Fast, bidirectional communication into air-ga...
by rgj on Friday February 11, 2022 @02:08PM
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Most of the time the system is compromised before being in an air gapped setup, for instance in the supply chain.
Re:Lasershark: Fast, bidirectional communication into air-ga...
by alksjdalkj on Friday February 11, 2022 @02:47PM
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I think it's common to have multiple systems on different airgapped networks in the same room. So if one of the networks were compromised this could let you pivot to another network. Or if they're both compromised it would give a way to exfil from one to the other.
Re:Lasershark: Fast, bidirectional communication into air-ga...
by Melatonic on Friday February 11, 2022 @06:51PM
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This is what I am wondering. This attack has been known for quite awhile.
That being said it might be enough just to compromise ANY system within the air gapped network - and then escalate from there. Data could still be routed through the computer with line of site (although now we are talking about an increasingly sophisticated automated hack)
Re:Lasershark: Fast, bidirectional communication into air-ga...
by locusofself on Friday February 11, 2022 @01:38PM
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Right. In the SCIFs I have been in, if there even are windows, the blinds remain drawn at all times.
Re:Lasershark: Fast, bidirectional communication into air-ga...
by Ansil849 on Friday February 11, 2022 @03:41PM
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> In the SCIFs I have been in, if there even are windows, the blinds remain drawn at all times.
Windows are discouraged in SCIF construction, though not outright against spec. Aside from visual controls like blinds/curtains, IR/RF controls like RF film over the glass panes are also mandatory.