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Re:There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths... by dathinab on Friday February 11, 2022 @07:40AM (#30300717)
We know that:

1. A SARSCov2 infection can have all kinds of side effects affecting you even if you have a seemingly asymptotic infection, or post infection. Many of which have the chance to increase the chance of death through other causes.

2. An infection has the chance to weaken your immune system increasing your risk of death due to other reasons

3. People didn't took care (or couldn't) of other health issues as a side effect of the pandemic, fare and the pandemic measurements, increasing risk of death again by a small bit.

This is also not limited to medical death, for example non COVID specific: Sickness can cause you to have reduced reaction time or concentration which slightly increases you risk of dying by e.g. an car accident (if you drive).

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So what I'm trying to say is, I would say a non-small "all cause deaths" increase is expected, even if we would have had side effect free vaccines.

I.e. it's not a factual good basis for creating a conspiracy theory on.

Which doesn't mean that some increase might not be from vaccines, noting is perfect.

But most of it should be due to implicit side effects from covid, the pandemic, fare, delayed operations/healthcare etc.

Re:There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths... by dham on Friday February 11, 2022 @07:44AM (#30300756)
Most of these can be from Covid / any other virus. For instance Bell's Palsy. I know 2 people who I went to school with who got it after having Covid (they were vaccinated too). Doctors didn't seem surprised at all.

The interesting one is Miscarriages, Female infertility. That might/probably related to stress from pandemic in general / lockdowns / previous kids being at home trying to teach them and do your job too. Also some viral infections are associated with miscarriages

Neurologic abnormalities - I still have smell distortion(not loss but certain distorted smells). I went to ENT and he's seen so much of it just in my town, so probably related to Covid for most people.

Congenital malformations - This is a thing with the Flu so probably coronaviruses too.

Re:There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths... by TrispusAttucks on Friday February 11, 2022 @07:47AM (#30300775)
How can you be sure it was from COVID and not the vaccine?
Re:There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths... by dham on Friday February 11, 2022 @07:50AM (#30300809)
I can't. Just posting my thoughts
Re:There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths... by dathinab on Friday February 11, 2022 @07:50AM (#30300816)
Probably, because it also affects non vaccinated people which had covid?

But I don't have any medical data in either direction.

Re:There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths... by ryanbrunner on Friday February 11, 2022 @07:53AM (#30300845)
Vaccines had / have controlled groups where an increase in mortality can be observed. We don't have anywhere near that ability to track long-term outcomes of COVID.
Re:There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths... by yucky on Friday February 11, 2022 @02:00PM (#30305594)
>Vaccines had / have controlled groups where an increase in mortality can be observed.

Sadly this was not the case. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/02/19/9691430...

Re:There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths... by DarkWiiPlayer on Friday February 11, 2022 @07:55AM (#30300862)
Why would the vaccine have any side effect that COVID itself doesn't also have?
Re:There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths... by shlant on Friday February 11, 2022 @08:05AM (#30300946)
one of the few reasons I can think of is allergic reactions to the ingredients, but that is very rare and fairly avoidable.
Re:There was an unexpected 40% increase in ‘all cause deaths... by dathinab on Friday February 11, 2022 @10:26AM (#30302496)
and generally short term and as such fairly well observable

Vaccine ingredients which stay in the body for a long time could cause long term effects but as far as I know the current wide spread vaccines do not have that.