Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by mping on Thursday February 10, 2022 @12:59PM
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This completely misses the point, the laws shouldn't be written to accommodate businesses, its the other way around. If fragmenting is a consequence of better privacy laws, so be it.
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Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by FredPret on Thursday February 10, 2022 @04:15PM
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Laws should be written to facilitate and improve the growth of civilization. This includes practical and fair measures for conducting business.
Imposing byzantine regulations on every webmaster on the planet isn't helping anyone, least of all the European user, who will increasingly be locked out from the rest of the planet.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by snovv_crash on Thursday February 10, 2022 @05:54PM
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Depends on your perspective. It might be that American/Chinese predatory service providers are instead locked out of the European market, allowing the breathing space for local solutions to flourish.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by FredPret on Friday February 11, 2022 @09:59AM
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If your local providers need the rest of the world to be kneecapped in order to compete, you may want to start with that problem.
The EU consumer will end up with strictly worse solutions and all the rest of the world will “gain” will be the crappy trade-barrier-supported Euro versions of Google and Facebook.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by snovv_crash on Saturday February 12, 2022 @05:19AM
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This is a short term view. There's a certain amount of 'activation energy' that a system needs to be able to kick off and become self sustaining. If a giant generalized, subsidized solution already exists PHBs are much happier to spend years trying to knock a round peg into a square hole than take the risk of doing something bespoke for the problem at hand.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by FredPret on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:30PM
(#30314514)
Creating an artificially easy sandbox for your local engineers and entrepreneurs by banning the competition will not lead anywhere good. Competing with the best forces you to improve; playing on easy mode leads to stunted skills and inflated confidence - and worse products, companies, and economies.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by snovv_crash on Saturday February 12, 2022 @03:21PM
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It isn't banning the competition. It's forcing the external competition to follow the same rules as the locals w.r.t. privacy laws. The fact that the external competition can't comply means that there's a market niche available which locals have an opportunity to exploit.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by nickpp on Thursday February 10, 2022 @01:23PM
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Businesses exists for consumers. Fragmenting hurts people - European users - in the first place.
I see very little advantages from these privacy laws but I use and appreciate US businesses every day.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by Nullabillity on Thursday February 10, 2022 @05:29PM
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So if those businesses utterly refuse to serve consumers then they have no business existing?
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by nickpp on Friday February 11, 2022 @02:10AM
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They are definitely serving consumers, otherwise they would cease existing. They're not serving politicians and their pet cause of the day though.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by aksss on Thursday February 10, 2022 @02:11PM
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What, you don't appreciate a pop-up on every web page telling you that cookies are going to be used? XD
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by carlhjerpe on Thursday February 10, 2022 @03:10PM
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The cookie banners are a byproduct of companies still wanting to abuse your data, when was the last time you saw a cookie pop-up on HN? Logged in or not.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by VikingCoder on Thursday February 10, 2022 @03:21PM
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If only there were some way that European citizens could have told their browsers to not accept Cookies, then maybe we all wouldn't have to click on those banners all the damn time.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by Dylan16807 on Thursday February 10, 2022 @04:41PM
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But I do want most non-tracking cookies.
Still, the "please let us track" popups can be fixed by policy or law, and I hope they are.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p...
by CamperBob2 on Thursday February 10, 2022 @03:35PM
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If a business pays taxes, and the laws don't take their needs into account to some extent, that's not justice. It's just mob protection with a veneer of legitimacy.
Lots of loaded assumptions there, of course, starting with the first conditional clause.