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Re:Inflation rises 7.5% over past year, more than expected a... by bryanlarsen on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:13AM (#30287208)
The preferred term is "sectoral". In other words, is it just the increase in gas and used cars, or is it broader? The price of used cars and gas will inevitably drop back down, but wages once raised don't. Summer 2021's inflation was clearly sectoral, but that is changing.

The next question is whether this is a one time bump or systemic? 10% inflation once is one thing, 10% inflation continuously is a completely different thing.

It's very important to get this right, because the only real antidote to inflation is recession. Raising interest rates and raising taxes will stop inflation, but kill the economy. Recession is preferable to stagflation, but nothing else.

And remember there are two sides to the political machinations at work here. A good recession will guarantee that the Republicans take the White House in 2024.

Re:Inflation rises 7.5% over past year, more than expected a... by caeril on Thursday February 10, 2022 @12:01PM (#30289087)
> gas will inevitably drop back down

Why is this inevitable?

Investment in US tight oil is stagnating, OPEC+ lacks either the desire or capability to increase production, Venezuela's production capacity is still terrible, and rumors are getting quite loud that Ghawar has finally peaked.

EV sales are still far less than 50% of total sales, so net global fuel demand will continue to increase in the face of tight supply.

Barring another severe COVID variant outbreak, I don't see fuel prices declining anytime soon.

And the cool thing about energy prices is they feed forward into the cost of literally everything else in future PPI/CPI prints.

Re:Inflation rises 7.5% over past year, more than expected a... by bryanlarsen on Thursday February 10, 2022 @12:17PM (#30289372)
EV sales are over 25% in Europe, over 20% in China, 10% in California. It's far from the majority but remember that price is set at the margin -- supply 99 demand 100 price goes up, supply 101 demand 100 price goes down.

But the biggest factor is that the cost of renewable electricity is dropping fast. And to many industries, they are imperfect substites, so the price of electricity and gas are correlated.

> And the cool thing about energy prices is they feed forward into the cost of literally everything else in future PPI/CPI prints.

Exactly, which is why the forthcoming massive drop in electricity costs has me so excited.

Re:Inflation rises 7.5% over past year, more than expected a... by derbOac on Thursday February 10, 2022 @11:56AM (#30288995)
Seems like one should be able to provide evidence one way or another for different explanations of inflation pretty easily, like changes in the correlation of prices across sectors or changes in bond prices or something? I'm not an economist though.
Re:Inflation rises 7.5% over past year, more than expected a... by dragonwriter on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:28AM (#30287479)
> The preferred term is "sectoral". In other words, is it just the increase in gas and used cars, or is it broader?

That's not “the preferred term” for what you are responding to (whether it is transitory), but an orthogonal concern.

Re:Inflation rises 7.5% over past year, more than expected a... by bryanlarsen on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:42AM (#30287731)
"Preferred" as in I heard at least a couple of talking heads say "I wish I had used the term sectoral rather than transitory".

Yes, they would have preferred using a term that would make them look less foolish.

Re:Inflation rises 7.5% over past year, more than expected a... by yonaguska on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:19AM (#30287318)
Remember when all those tv hosts were practically salivating over the thought of an recession so as to ensure Trump didn't get reelected?

The political machinations you're touching on are a really disgusting reality of our system. People would love to sacrifice the middle and lower class for the sake of having their party in power.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/456942-bil...

Edit since I'm getting downvoted, this did happen, and it's gross to see, regardless of what political side you support. I don't want a recession to happen even if my preferred party isn't in power. The people at the bottom are the biggest losers when recessions happen, even if most of the users on this board are largely insulated from the fallout.