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Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by simion314 on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:04AM (#30287063)
>Yes, and when you go shopping and pay with cash in a store with no surveillance, your shopping habits are being shared against your wishes with a random third party (the external company bookkeeper).

How, you don't enter your name when you pay with cash.

Also in EU is illegal to share any personal info in physical world too, say you go and make a subscription to a gym they can't share your data with a third party unless they make you sign a paper first.

Edit:typos

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by umvi on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:17AM (#30287292)
> How, you don't enter your name when you pay with cache.

You don't need to be identified by name, just by a "fingerprint". If you go there regularly you will be identified by your "fingerprint".

"Oh, it's that one privacy nut again who always wears sunglasses and a hoodie and only pays in cash"

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by simion314 on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:36AM (#30287621)
>"Oh, it's that one privacy nut again who always wears sunglasses and a hoodie and only pays in cash"

And the store person will then what? Open excel wnd write "a dude with glasses was ehre at 12:51"? and then send the file to 100+ partners?

>You don't need to be identified by name, just by a "fingerprint". If you go there regularly you will be identified by your "fingerprint".

So the physical stores have some shady dudes attempting to lift fingerprints from money then some statistics guy try to put probabilities on which fingerprint matches which anonymous guy?

here in my country you still pay with cash and the store people put it in a machine combine it with money from other people, it will be a lot of work and risk for some shitty nano reward.

Edit typo

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by hutzlibu on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:48AM (#30287842)
Sorry to nitpick, but since you wrote it 2 times wrong:

it is cash, not cache.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by simion314 on Thursday February 10, 2022 @11:18AM (#30288367)
No problem, thanks
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by elevader on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:49AM (#30287855)
And the GDPR forbids them from writing that information (e.g. "the privacy nut bought apple juice") down or passing it to a third party without your explicit consent.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by germanier on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:10AM (#30287156)
On the other hand, it's perfectly legal (and usual practice) to contract out the operation of people counting devices that just tally up how many persons go through a door.

(By the way, a gym can and usually does share contract data including personal information with numerous third-parties such as external bookkeepers. This is legal under the GDPR without explicit consent.)

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by simion314 on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:17AM (#30287276)
>By the way, a gym can and usually does share contract data with numerous third-parties such as external bookkeepers. This is perfectly legal under the GDPR)

Why is it legal, does the gym need those 100 contractors to know my data for it to work? What are those for 100 different accountants? How did gyms or other businesses worked before the internet, did a guy walked to 100 different locations with papers in hand so those "partners" take a quick look?

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by germanier on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:24AM (#30287398)
Yes, before there was electronic bookkeeping businesses hauled stacks of paper to their accountant. This is standard business practice since literally centuries.

If they want to send you a letter, they have to give your data to the postal service. Again, no consent needed.

This is legal because our whole economy is based on devision of labor. Privacy laws account for that.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by simion314 on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:39AM (#30287670)
Maybe you are referring to required data. I can buy some bread and the store does not need my ID for accounting purposes, so not sure what exceptional stores or gym need to send a copy of my ID and my activities to their accountant.

My problem is with the 100+ partners that are OBVIOUSLy not partners and not required to have my data.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by germanier on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:43AM (#30287758)
Ok, now what's the difference between sharing "1 bread sold" (with no identifying information about the customer) with a third-party and "1 page visited" (with no identifying information about the visitor) with a third-party?
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by tremon on Thursday February 10, 2022 @11:31AM (#30288579)
"1 page visited" (with no identifying information about the visitor) with a third-party?

False equivalence, no online stalking company actually works like that (that would require a server-side hook). They all make the visitor go to the third party's desk and increase the tally themselves (via http request), giving the tracker company access to all the contact details of the visitor.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by hutzlibu on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:52AM (#30287907)
The fundamental issue here is probably sharing with a different nation. If google would be german, they would have no problems with it.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by orangepurple on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:53AM (#30287919)
"Why is it legal" is the wrong question. There is nothing wrong with freedom. You already know this. The problem is the lack of competition. You should be asking why is the competition so small for this particular service with bad terms that you can't find a better place around you that provides a better service.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by Ensorceled on Thursday February 10, 2022 @11:29AM (#30288553)
The bookkeeper literally needs access to receipts and invoices to do their job. No bookkeeper is going to work from an anonymous list of payments; that's how you get swept up in a money laundering raid.

Before the internet, the owner took a shoe box of receipts to their bookkeeper every month. Those receipts had your name, date, etc. on them.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by simion314 on Thursday February 10, 2022 @01:09PM (#30290172)
>Those receipts had your name, date, etc. on them

How, when I buy stuff in real world and pay with cash I don't ask for an Id Card, so why do you think the store needs names on the receipts? Is this something that happens in your country? For buying cars,land you need an Id, if I buy even an expensive electronics no Id is needed I just return the product and the receipt that has no name on it back.

I remember when my grandfather was doing accounting for a bar before Internet days, they papers were about the stuff not about people, like how many bear was bought, how much was sold stuff like that.

Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by Griffinsauce on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:29AM (#30287486)
Please note you made "numerous" into 100. Realistically the number is way lower.
Re:Use of Google Analytics declared illegal by French data p... by simion314 on Thursday February 10, 2022 @10:40AM (#30287692)
Did you ever count the partners in the GDPR popups, there are for sure some that have 100 if you include the partners part6ners.